Re: Saints (m) : Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:19 am  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

What I’ve learned this week

St Helens are only back to back to back winners and challenge cup winners due to luck.
Jai Field, despite no NRL team wanting him would walk into NSW’s team ahead of tedesco and Mitchell

Something else you need to learn, Wigan did it 8 times in a row and we did it without having any luck. That is one of the reasons why we are the most successful rugby club ever.

Re: Saints (m) : Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:39 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

I’ve not seen any comments from Saints fans claiming none of our players (or very very few) would get in a combined 17, so it’s been a bit weird on that score

Seriously? It was a staple on RedVee and still is occasionally. Obviously the likes of Stu, FTV, YG don't say it but ask TheWarringtonWolve69 how many would get into the Saints team if you'd like to see it on here too.

To be fair even the good posters can be quite disparaging at times. Look at FTVs comments pre season on squad depth and compare it to what has actually materialised this season. He's a great poster and adds to this board but I remember comments along the lines of we're just replacing average players with other average players, Byrne and Smithies are just more examples of the 'too small' forwards we produce and Harry Smith was the next best thing until he wasn't. Not exactly a reasoned view when you consider how this season has panned out so far.

Re: Saints (m) : Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:55 am  

The Yellow Giraffe wrote:

Very clever to take things out of context to try and be a comedian.

My comment, which is factual by the way, was aimed at someone claiming our defence isn’t that special. I informed him that we concede an average of 11 points per game and was 10 last year. Only Penrith can better that out of all Super League and NRL teams. That’s a fact.

Not once did I say we have “Penrith like defence.” Nor did I mention putting a big score on anyone. Nor did anyone else. You’ve literally made that up about a NRL style walkover. The comment re the WCC game is ridiculous too as depending who you believe Saints made every attempt to arrange the game. But yeah we “bottled” it.

Been a weird week on here and I think you’ve summed it up nicely. Lots of bitchy, catty behaviour and comments. I get that it’s derby week but it’s been a very petty few days and your post is frankly pathetic. If you’re so short of attention go and find yourself a woman. Or whatever floats your boat.

Ha ha your last bit let you down to a decent riposte. It's game week, I'm merely pointing out that we cannot possible win (apparently) so when we get beat everything is normal. You used the Penrith Panthers as a comparison to your defence. You said it not me, no point trying to back track on it or explain it. Why is my post pathetic btw? I'm just quoting what has been said by your inane lot. Well it's time for my hair cut, then a brekky, then meeting up with my mates, guess who is coming with me, you will like this..... It's only a woman. What do I do with one?

In all seriousness. Good luck (well not really) see you tomorrow, though maybe not

Re: Saints (m) : Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:13 am  

Phuzzy wrote:

Seriously? It was a staple on RedVee and still is occasionally. Obviously the likes of Stu, FTV, YG don't say it but ask TheWarringtonWolve69 how many would get into the Saints team if you'd like to see it on here too.

To be fair even the good posters can be quite disparaging at times. Look at FTVs comments pre season on squad depth and compare it to what has actually materialised this season. He's a great poster and adds to this board but I remember comments along the lines of we're just replacing average players with other average players, Byrne and Smithies are just more examples of the 'too small' forwards we produce and Harry Smith was the next best thing until he wasn't. Not exactly a reasoned view when you consider how this season has panned out so far.

Just on here I mean but clearly it’s a small sample size. I’ve not ventured on to Red Vee this week. I’m sure most on there are claiming they have a better player in ever position, right down to the tea lady.

I’m pretty excited for the rivalry going forward tbh. We looked miles off last season and whilst we’ve closed the gap, there is still work to do. I’m confident we can keep getting closer though as players develop and gain more confidence. As much as Saints fans will have enjoyed the one sided nature of the rivalry (most of the time) these past few seasons, there’s nothing better than going in to a Derby when both sides are going well and you don’t know who’ll win.

Re: Saints (m) : Sat Jul 09, 2022 8:49 am  

No bigger test for our forwards than against a full strength motivated Saints pack.

They’ll all need to be excellent today.

Saints will want to dominate the middle and Roby play off quick ruck speed so we need numbers in every tackle.

Kind of annoying we play Saints at magic this year (a nice walk over of Leeds/Wire would have been fun).

If we meet in the playoffs it will be 5 times playing each other this year, bit overkill but probably good for us to get used to matching their intensity.

Re: Saints (m) : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:18 am  

Personally, I can't wait until this game week has passed. We play Saints and it turns into silly week (from both sides) on here.

I've said these two points a million times. 1 - I couldn't care less with the whataboutism of "on Redvee" they said this, or "I wonder what Redvee is saying". I can't believe people who don't support Saints, go on there and then cry about what they read. Easy to call them sad, but it also takes a sad person to go on there and login to respond.

2 - People from both clubs need to hear this one. Saints are our biggest rivals, but they certainly aren't the enemy. There's plenty of teams in this league who do more damage to Wigan & the sport than Saints. They produce their own top players, bring plenty of fans to every game and have a rich heritage that sells the sport (now what other club does that remind me of?? )

Instead of squabbling about who's better between the plethora of players both sides have produced, fans should be sticking it to the other clubs who instead of investing in young lads, just poach them. Or the clubs who over inflate the salaries of half decent players, as they want the weaken the top teams. Making life difficult for everyone.

Re: Saints (m) : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:31 am  

NickyKiss wrote:

there’s nothing better than going in to a Derby when both sides are going well and you don’t know who’ll win.

Absolutely

Re: Saints (m) : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:31 am  

sergeant pepper wrote:

Personally, I can't wait until this game week has passed. We play Saints and it turns into silly week (from both sides) on here.

I've said these two points a million times. 1 - I couldn't care less with the whataboutism of "on Redvee" they said this, or "I wonder what Redvee is saying". I can't believe people who don't support Saints, go on there and then cry about what they read. Easy to call them sad, but it also takes a sad person to go on there and login to respond.

2 - People from both clubs need to hear this one. Saints are our biggest rivals, but they certainly aren't the enemy. There's plenty of teams in this league who do more damage to Wigan & the sport than Saints. They produce their own top players, bring plenty of fans to every game and have a rich heritage that sells the sport (now what other club does that remind me of?? )

Instead of squabbling about who's better between the plethora of players both sides have produced, fans should be sticking it to the other clubs who instead of investing in young lads, just poach them. Or the clubs who over inflate the salaries of half decent players, as they want the weaken the top teams. Making life difficult for everyone.

Great post.

I’m a Utd fan and I think similar towards Liverpool. Both have way more in common than they want to admit. Working class cities, production of Academy players, great history and a global fan base. Problem is they’ll never respect each other.

You are right about Saints and Wigan. Indeed Peet was very astute pre-match Good Friday when he was asked about his thoughts on Saints. He was very mature and complimentary. Now granted he’s probably thinking of his media image and wants to be liked but he certainly endeared himself to Saints fans when he spoke about both clubs producing youth and doing things the right way.

Re: Saints (m) : Sat Jul 09, 2022 9:34 am  

NSW wrote:

Kind of annoying we play Saints at magic this year (a nice walk over of Leeds/Wire would have been fun).

If we meet in the playoffs it will be 5 times playing each other this year, bit overkill but probably good for us to get used to matching their intensity.

When did we last have a perceived easy tie at Magic? Leeds in 2016?

I don't tire of playing the big sides TBH. They're the games I look forward to and enjoy. Rather see 5 close battles with Saints than 5 crap games against the rest.

Re: Saints (m) : Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:11 am  

Stu M wrote:

Great post.

I’m a Utd fan and I think similar towards Liverpool. Both have way more in common than they want to admit. Working class cities, production of Academy players, great history and a global fan base. Problem is they’ll never respect each other.

You are right about Saints and Wigan. Indeed Peet was very astute pre-match Good Friday when he was asked about his thoughts on Saints. He was very mature and complimentary. Now granted he’s probably thinking of his media image and wants to be liked but he certainly endeared himself to Saints fans when he spoke about both clubs producing youth and doing things the right way.

Yeah, I'm not much of a footy fan, but I love Liverpool city centre. Sadly, most of my mates are Utd fans and won't have anything positive said about the place.

Same with Wigan and Saints fans, Saints produce a talent like Welsby and all some Wigan fans have to say is "he's no Tomkins".