: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:53 am  

Cruncher wrote:

It's very interesting that Griffin has been cited by a number of Wigan fans as the sort of 'poor quality signing' that has bedevilled us for several years now.

This is a mindset that we simply have to change.

It's a form of petulant arrogance that led one particular Wigan fan, who no longer posts on here, to make repeated statements to the effect that only the very best in the world were good enough for Wigan.

Sure, it's desirable to have players like that - but these days you're only going to get them now and then. The past is gone; that era will never return as long as there's a salary cap.

Meanwhile, we SHOULD be looking at players like Griffin, who are performing very well in a team that is way better than us.

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 2:57 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

It's very interesting that Griffin has been cited by a number of Wigan fans as the sort of 'poor quality signing' that has bedevilled us for several years now.

This is a mindset that we simply have to change.

It's a form of petulant arrogance that led one particular Wigan fan, who no longer posts on here, to make repeated statements to the effect that only the very best in the world were good enough for Wigan.

Sure, it's desirable to have players like that - but these days you're only going to get them now and then. The past is gone; that era will never return as long as there's a salary cap.

Meanwhile, we SHOULD be looking at players like Griffin, who are performing very well in a team that is way better than us.

The SC means that players like Coley, Phelps, Griffin and any young player who has come through your academy can be just as valuable as an expensive overseas player.

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:08 pm  

odemwingie wrote:

The SC means that players like Coley, Phelps, Griffin and any young player who has come through your academy can be just as valuable as an expensive overseas player.

Friday showed that Coley and Prescott aren't the problems with our front row. They've both stepped up this year and are easily good enough to get on longer contracts.

The problems always come when Fielden and Feka come on, this coupled with the lack of a specialist hooker on the bench. I think Riddell not being on the pitch also has a much larger impact than most people notice, and when he's not there just blame it on fielden and feka. Saying that, they were both cr ap on saturday.

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:17 pm  

I do feel that if McIlorum had been fit for the Semi we would have done better, when Riddell was off, we were effectively rudderless, I couldn't tell who was meant to be acting as Stand Off (O'Loughlin or Flanagan I think). The multiple shifts we've had to do has affected the team quite a bit.

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:41 pm  

Reading todays league express and weekly it looks like bailey will be getting a new deal and it was saying there might not be any more new signings.
Also mentioned that you went after Karmichael hunt but he wanted £480,000 and il wasn't prepared to pay that.

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 3:55 pm  

rhinoms wrote:

Reading todays league express and weekly it looks like bailey will be getting a new deal and it was saying there might not be any more new signings.
Also mentioned that you went after Karmichael hunt but he wanted £480,000 and il wasn't prepared to pay that.

No f**king wonder

A quarter of the cap on 1 player. Dont make me laugh

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:35 pm  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 193892.stm He would want a shed load of cash

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 193892.stm He would want a shed load of cash

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:38 pm  

king warrior wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/8193892.stm

He would want a shed load of cash

And with a criminal record dangling ominously over him, we could offer him all the cash in the world without a hope of ever having to pay a penny.

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:45 pm  

rhinoms wrote:

Reading todays league express and weekly it looks like bailey will be getting a new deal and it was saying there might not be any more new signings.
Also mentioned that you went after Karmichael hunt but he wanted £480,000 and il wasn't prepared to pay that.

We need a Prop, if we resign Bailey and are unable to sign a Prop we may as well get set for another season of disappointment, our only hope if we do bring in a new coach is he can get some life back into Fielden.

: Mon Aug 10, 2009 4:50 pm  

jonh wrote:

We need a Prop, if we resign Bailey and are unable to sign a Prop we may as well get set for another season of disappointment, our only hope if we do bring in a new coach is he can get some life back into Fielden.

I have no problem with Lenagan saying we'll stick with the same squad because theres nobody out there of the right quality if thats actually the case.

If it turns out that teams over here sign good props from down under(or here for that matter) and we miss out on them because we weren't prepared to pay the wages then i really worry for the future.

Alot of people have said that Lenagan has been here for a couple of seasons now and from the day he came here it was obvious we were lacking in the front row and still nothings been done about it.

Thats got to change.