Re: Saints (m) : Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:22 am  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Biggest game in the sport and shoved to Sky Sports Mix.

Don't understand having us on before Leeds and Cas. Big crowd at 4.30, everyone gone home for 6.00

Agreed re: the scheduling - very disappointing to be on SSM.

Re: Saints (m) : Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:34 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

Agreed re: the scheduling - very disappointing to be on SSM.

Even looking at it from last season's performances - it's Wigan v Saints. It will always be your biggest crowd puller even it's a walkover. There's a reason literally one game between us in 30 years hasn't been on TV.

Re: Saints (m) : Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:52 pm  

So what have i learned this week? Well it's more of a regurgitation than a lesson but going through the Wigan and Saints forums :-

We can't win unless we play our best
We can't win unless Saints play their worst
We can only win if we attack their right edge
They are 'vastly' superior
They were robbed against us because Smithies should have been sent off, and robbed in Catalans last week
They have an 'Uber' defence
Players being injured is affecting their continuity
Over the last 2 years only Penrith have conceded 1 more point than them on average (Nice one Yellow Giraffe) Penrith don't play Wakefield though do they. Pity Saints bottled their offer of a match so we could see how similar it is.
Field is a one trick pony yada yada yada

So if Saints turn up and we still play our best and they aren't robbed and their Penrith like defence stops us they are going to put a 'big score' on us

Ah well, i wanted to watch the tennis anyway. Might aswel stay in if it's going to be an NRL style walkover.

Re: Saints (m) : Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:47 pm  

Pie_Eyter wrote:

So what have i learned this week? Well it's more of a regurgitation than a lesson but going through the Wigan and Saints forums :-

We can't win unless we play our best
We can't win unless Saints play their worst
We can only win if we attack their right edge
They are 'vastly' superior
They were robbed against us because Smithies should have been sent off, and robbed in Catalans last week
They have an 'Uber' defence
Players being injured is affecting their continuity
Over the last 2 years only Penrith have conceded 1 more point than them on average (Nice one Yellow Giraffe) Penrith don't play Wakefield though do they. Pity Saints bottled their offer of a match so we could see how similar it is.
Field is a one trick pony yada yada yada

So if Saints turn up and we still play our best and they aren't robbed and their Penrith like defence stops us they are going to put a 'big score' on us

Ah well, i wanted to watch the tennis anyway. Might aswel stay in if it's going to be an NRL style walkover.

Very clever to take things out of context to try and be a comedian.

My comment, which is factual by the way, was aimed at someone claiming our defence isn’t that special. I informed him that we concede an average of 11 points per game and was 10 last year. Only Penrith can better that out of all Super League and NRL teams. That’s a fact.

Not once did I say we have “Penrith like defence.” Nor did I mention putting a big score on anyone. Nor did anyone else. You’ve literally made that up about a NRL style walkover. The comment re the WCC game is ridiculous too as depending who you believe Saints made every attempt to arrange the game. But yeah we “bottled” it.

Been a weird week on here and I think you’ve summed it up nicely. Lots of bitchy, catty behaviour and comments. I get that it’s derby week but it’s been a very petty few days and your post is frankly pathetic. If you’re so short of attention go and find yourself a woman. Or whatever floats your boat.

Re: Saints (m) : Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:10 pm  

It has been a strange week, I’ve given up posting to be honest. I’ve enjoyed the discussions on here in the main but not this week. Some ridiculous comments.

Not sure if the CC win has gone to their heads but suddenly we aren’t all that anymore. Moreover our 3 peat (which is a ridiculously brilliant achievement in a salary capped sport) has now only been achieved through luck, Covid and Woolf cheating.

Re: Saints (m) : Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:34 pm  

Another chance to see how far we have come under Peet. Wish we were playing a full strength Saints side to truly measure up, but not sure they have played a full strength Wigan side for about 6 seasons so it is what it is.

Should be a decent game either way.

Re: Saints (m) : Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:41 pm  

Stu M wrote:

It has been a strange week, I’ve given up posting to be honest. I’ve enjoyed the discussions on here in the main but not this week. Some ridiculous comments.

Not sure if the CC win has gone to their heads but suddenly we aren’t all that anymore. Moreover our 3 peat (which is a ridiculously brilliant achievement in a salary capped sport) has now only been achieved through luck, Covid and Woolf cheating.

I'll bet redvee has been full of well thought out and completely neutral comments with no form of bias at all.

We're Wigan fans, we'll big up our chances in the same way you'll big up yours (actually read my explanation of the luck, covid, cheating comment) in the same way every other two sets of fans will prior to a game. We'll think your arrogant, you'll think we're deluded etc etc, but don't come on here expecting Wigan fans to talk about how good you are and how we stand no chance because it just won't happen. Similarly, I doubt many Liverpool fans will say how good Utd are and vice versa.

FWIW - I would still have you as favourites because frankly, you're better than we are in most areas.

Re: Saints (m) : Fri Jul 08, 2022 8:44 pm  

It doesn’t feel much different to any other Derby week to me, in fact the only difference I sense is that the sides are a bit closer than they’ve been for a while. That will lead to comments either side might find a bit out there but when we’ve been used to us just hoping we can get close to Saints, it’s little surprise Wigan fans are showing a bit more confidence and Saints fans then see that as being disrespectful.

I’ve not seen any comments from Saints fans claiming none of our players (or very very few) would get in a combined 17, so it’s been a bit weird on that score

Re: Saints (m) : Fri Jul 08, 2022 9:35 pm  

Pie_Eyter wrote:

So what have i learned this week? Well it's more of a regurgitation than a lesson but going through the Wigan and Saints forums :-

We can't win unless we play our best
We can't win unless Saints play their worst
We can only win if we attack their right edge
They are 'vastly' superior
They were robbed against us because Smithies should have been sent off, and robbed in Catalans last week
They have an 'Uber' defence
Players being injured is affecting their continuity
Over the last 2 years only Penrith have conceded 1 more point than them on average (Nice one Yellow Giraffe) Penrith don't play Wakefield though do they. Pity Saints bottled their offer of a match so we could see how similar it is.
Field is a one trick pony yada yada yada

So if Saints turn up and we still play our best and they aren't robbed and their Penrith like defence stops us they are going to put a 'big score' on us

Ah well, i wanted to watch the tennis anyway. Might aswel stay in if it's going to be an NRL style walkover.

What I’ve learned this week

St Helens are only back to back to back winners and challenge cup winners due to luck.
Jai Field, despite no NRL team wanting him would walk into NSW’s team ahead of tedesco and Mitchell

Re: Saints (m) : Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:12 pm  

TheWarringtonWolve69 wrote:

What I’ve learned this week

St Helens are only back to back to back winners and challenge cup winners due to Zak Hardaker being a bog average goalkicker.

Edited for accuracy.