FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!

   WWW.RLFANS.COM • View topic - Salford (H) Moved to Thursday
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9517
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 21 200520 years95th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Nov 24 16:2626th Nov 24 12:15LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leeds

Re: Salford (H) Moved to Thursday : Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:21 am  
There's no doubt in my mind we have a Wigan v Saints semi final coming up in a couple of weeks and the form of each team in the regular season will be redundant at that point.

I hate the lack of any tangible reward for finishing 1st or 2nd outside of home advantage. You can argue a week off does you more harm than good at times. When you finish in the top 2 you should get two chances to get to the final as we had with the old top 6 system. It would also extend the playoff series by a week.

And this has nothing to do with any Wigan bias - in 2018 Saints finished top - 6 points clear of Wigan and 15 points clear of Warrington. They lose one game against Warrington and are out which was farcical in my view.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star4786
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 05 201510 years218th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Nov 24 02:0218th Nov 24 18:32LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Salford (H) Moved to Thursday : Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:39 am  
[quote="MadDogg"

I hate the lack of any tangible reward for finishing 1st or 2nd outside of home advantage. You can argue a week off does you more harm than good at times. When you finish in the top 2 you should get two chances to get to the final as we had with the old top 6 system. It would also extend the playoff series by a week.

[/quote]

Isn't that more like what happens in the NRL? I thought the top two there could afford to lose their first play-off game. Not that that was going to happen, with Penrith and Melbourne!
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9517
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 21 200520 years95th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Nov 24 16:2626th Nov 24 12:15LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leeds

Re: Salford (H) Moved to Thursday : Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:44 am  
moto748 wrote:
Isn't that more like what happens in the NRL? I thought the top two there could afford to lose their first play-off game. Not that that was going to happen, with Penrith and Melbourne!


You can lose the first game in the NRL but then you have to win another game to qualify for the semi final. Not a fan of that either - I firmly believe the old top 6 system we had in the mid 2000s was the best one.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
International Star4786
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 05 201510 years218th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Nov 24 02:0218th Nov 24 18:32LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Salford (H) Moved to Thursday : Wed Sep 18, 2024 11:48 am  
The NRL has more teams, though, so top 8 doesn't seem unreasonable. I agree that top 6 should be enough for the size of SL. But I doubt they'd go back to that because of "make every game matter", unfortunately.
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach676No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 28 200619 years248th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
20th Nov 24 15:324th Nov 24 13:19LINK
Milestone Posts
500
1000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Salford (H) Moved to Thursday : Wed Sep 18, 2024 12:32 pm  
Mark_P1973 wrote:
SKY / RFL would have been loving blowing smoke up their own arses this weekend on TV with Wigan v Salford (hoping Wigan lose so they can hype up Friday night for KR), but Salford likely to have stuck a spanner in the works there

however, they will still be saying how 1st - 7th are all still to play for with only Wigan guaranteed 1st or 2nd, KR 1st to 3rd, Wire 2nd or 3rd, and then Salford, Saints, Leigh and poss Catalan 4th - 6th, so they'll be hyping it up as best ever finish to a season. IN reality Wigan have been good enough to finish top (assuming we win), KR have had a good season, but then Wire through to Catalan have all be inconsistent, capable of winning on their day, but equally underperforming

I think most Wiganers still feel Saints are the biggest threat to us hopefully going on to win back to back due to their squad having big game experience, that KR, Wire, Salford and Leigh dont really have. As a Wiganer, i prefer us to play week in week out, as we've shown in the past that a week off doesnt always suit us, but we cant say that we are tired if we cant get past whoever we draw in the semi as we'll have had a relatively easy game tomorrow (assumption based on Salford team) and 2 weeks off to recover and train


Where and when would this hyping up take place and to what real value?
RankPostsTeam
Junior Player155
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 28 20231 year306th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Nov 24 17:0026th Nov 24 14:22LINK
Milestone Posts
100
200
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Salford (H) Moved to Thursday : Wed Sep 18, 2024 1:08 pm  
nathan_rugby wrote:
Where and when would this hyping up take place and to what real value?

Just listen to the commentary and how they will be saying its the greatest super league season ever because there is all to play for going into the final round of matches. Salford sending a virtual reserve side, means that the hype for KR and top spot is virtually gone (without counting our chickens)

in reality, apart from Wigan and KR, the rest have been hit and miss all season, even Wigan havent been great as we've been managing our efforts to peak for WCC, CC and now a tilt at the GF. Its now left sides in 3-7 with something to play for, so sky will be hyping it up the best they can
Zig 
RankPostsTeam
First Team Player2249
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 04 20222 years94th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Nov 24 11:3326th Nov 24 11:33LINK
Milestone Posts
1000
2500
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Salford (H) Moved to Thursday : Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:46 pm  
MadDogg wrote:
There's no doubt in my mind we have a Wigan v Saints semi final coming up in a couple of weeks and the form of each team in the regular season will be redundant at that point.

I hate the lack of any tangible reward for finishing 1st or 2nd outside of home advantage. You can argue a week off does you more harm than good at times. When you finish in the top 2 you should get two chances to get to the final as we had with the old top 6 system. It would also extend the playoff series by a week.

And this has nothing to do with any Wigan bias - in 2018 Saints finished top - 6 points clear of Wigan and 15 points clear of Warrington. They lose one game against Warrington and are out which was farcical in my view.


I prefer a top 5 play off system. It encourages clubs to be honest and rewards success.
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3005
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 01 201015 years132nd
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Nov 24 17:1126th Nov 24 12:32LINK
Milestone Posts
2500
5000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Under New Springs bridge wit' rest of trolls

Re: Salford (H) Moved to Thursday : Wed Sep 18, 2024 3:14 pm  
If it does turn out to be Wigan v Saints, very likely IMO, in the semi at least for once it should be a good crowd on.
The I'm saving my money for the final excuse really does go out the window for the derby, should easily be 20k+
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9517
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 21 200520 years95th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Nov 24 16:2626th Nov 24 12:15LINK
Milestone Posts
5000
10000
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Leeds

Re: Salford (H) Moved to Thursday : Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:07 pm  
Zig wrote:
I prefer a top 5 play off system. It encourages clubs to be honest and rewards success.


The top 5 system doesn't work IMO as it creates the likelihood of a repeat fixture in the same playoff series. Remember the pitiful crowd against Salford in 2019? Getting smashed by Saints the week before won't have helped but playing the same team we played a fortnight earlier won't attract many through the gates.
User avatar
RankPostsTeam
Club Captain112No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 01 20195 years338th
OnlineLast PostLast Page
26th Nov 24 18:2924th Nov 24 10:51LINK
Milestone Posts
100
200
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530

Re: Salford (H) Moved to Thursday : Wed Sep 18, 2024 4:44 pm  
MadDogg wrote:
The top 5 system doesn't work IMO as it creates the likelihood of a repeat fixture in the same playoff series. Remember the pitiful crowd against Salford in 2019? Getting smashed by Saints the week before won't have helped but playing the same team we played a fortnight earlier won't attract many through the gates.

Agree with this.

The current system is the best we've had imo.

The others are too convoluted with second chances and repeat fixtures. Of course it sucks if you've been the best team all season then lose one play off game and you're out but ultimately you have to be better than that to win and I think that's reasonable.

Also, I will be terrified ahead of a potential Saints semi. Obviously I think we win like 80% of the time but if they have a full team they'll put up a fight. I'm still traumatised by losses against the Rhinos when they looked like they were cooked in the 2010s.
PreviousNext

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot], Google Feedfetcher, NSW and 378 guests

REPLY

Subject: 
Message:
   
Please note using apple style emoji's can result in posting failures.
Use the FULL EDITOR to better format content or upload images, be notified of replies etc...

Return to Wigan Warriors


RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5766
Recent
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
Recent
New Kit
Cokey
70
Recent
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
Recent
Fixtures 2025
Wigan Bull
10
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Seth
517
Recent
Ground Improvements
phe13
198
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
19s
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
38s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
44s
Rumours and signings v9
Mark_P1973
28902
56s
Ground Improvements
phe13
198
1m
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
1m
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
2m
Salford
Smiffy27
59
2m
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
4m
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
5m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
TODAY
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
RLFANS Match Centre
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds - Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield - Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington - Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
Recent
Film game
karetaker
5766
Recent
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
Recent
New Kit
Cokey
70
Recent
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
Recent
Fixtures 2025
Wigan Bull
10
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Seth
517
Recent
Ground Improvements
phe13
198
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
19s
2025 Recruitment
Pyrah123
212
38s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40802
44s
Rumours and signings v9
Mark_P1973
28902
56s
Ground Improvements
phe13
198
1m
How many games will we win
Shifty Cat
48
1m
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
2m
Salford
Smiffy27
59
2m
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
4m
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
5m
Shirt reveal coming soon
Khlav Kalash
2
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Getting a new side to gel
Wigan Bull
2
TODAY
Fixtures
Hockley Bron
12
TODAY
Writers required
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
2025 Fixtures
Jemmo
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!