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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are

Re: 21 man squad to face Catalans Saturday. : Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:48 pm  
Isnt punching like a 2 game ban not a 5-8 game ?
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Re: 21 man squad to face Catalans Saturday. : Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:52 pm  
Are we not brave enough to play Shorrocks at 13 and O'Neill at 9? Maybe swap KPP and Bateman (if available)?
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Re: 21 man squad to face Catalans Saturday. : Sat Mar 12, 2022 9:59 pm  
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Isnt punching like a 2 game ban not a 5-8 game ?


Everything seems to have increased. Paul Cullen mentioned running in to a melee and punching was an automatic 8 games now but he didn’t do that, so I’m thinking 3 to 5 (bit I’m not sure).
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Re: 21 man squad to face Catalans Saturday. : Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:34 am  
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Are we not brave enough to play Shorrocks at 13 and O'Neill at 9? Maybe swap KPP and Bateman (if available)?

On current form that would seem quite a sensible suggestion
Will be interesting to see Peet’s reaction.

I was hoping for a positive response to the Toulouse debacle but it wasn’t to be.
I cannot comment on tonight as I haven’t seen the game but suspect the main problem is our lack of pace in defence and lack of power generally.

We are slow in the extreme. Defensively very poor. As a club who prided itself on defence we have become easy. Toulouse scroring 20+ got my alarm bells ringing.

I accept we are work in progress but yet another zip is pretty embarrassing.

For me the main issue is an unbalanced squad with a shortage of real quaily players in key positions basically across the piece. The future potentially looks exceptionally bright but currently too many players in key positions who probably aren’t good enough.

The backrow of Farrell, Bateman and Isa is too lightweight. One from three is acceptable, two from three is doable with a big front row but three from three is second tier.

I predict Leyth in the CC and let’s see what that brings.

Disappointed but not overly surprised. Hopefully we can respond against Cas.
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Re: 21 man squad to face Catalans Saturday. : Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:38 am  
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Isnt punching like a 2 game ban not a 5-8 game ?



Completely outlawed this year, it may very well be 8 games
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Re: 21 man squad to face Catalans Saturday. : Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:48 am  
Dont panic yet,just a blip we will bounce back Thursday with a thrashing of Cas.
Look we was only out played,out muscled,out enthused,out thought and out coached so if you think about it :something to work on :.

Regards glass half full fella
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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are

Re: 21 man squad to face Catalans Saturday. : Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:41 am  
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Completely outlawed this year, it may very well be 8 games

Fair play if it is. I’m there to watch a game of rugby not amateur boxing.

Makes me cringe when people how have sat on their phones most of a game, jump up and down as soon as a “fight” breaks out, shouting “IT IM”.

8 game should outlaw it, Peet seemed fuming with Ellis.

We’ll miss Ellis though. Hopefully Havard gets back soon.
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Re: 21 man squad to face Catalans Saturday. : Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:29 am  
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Fair play if it is. I’m there to watch a game of rugby not amateur boxing.

Makes me cringe when people how have sat on their phones most of a game, jump up and down as soon as a “fight” breaks out, shouting “IT IM”.

8 game should outlaw it, Peet seemed fuming with Ellis.

We’ll miss Ellis though. Hopefully Havard gets back soon.


And that's why the sport is heading for an early grave - including the NRL which is miles above us as a sporting spectacle.

We're sanitising the game for the sake of a small minority of people. Have a look at what the top viewed RL videos are on YouTube and it's full of big hits (many would carry a ban today) and fights. Why? Because people like watching confrontation. It's the reason people pay (not just watch) to see boxers on PPV, or why the UFC has exploded over the last 20 years. Guys like Eddie Hearn and Dana White saw what people wanted, gave it to them and made it must watch TV. We + RU took what was great and moved away from it.

BTW, apart from having huge by ratings, the Khan Vs Brook fight was full of celebrities & PL footballers - I remember a time when that was a Wigan Vs Saints derby. It was must see TV because you knew it would everything, including biff.
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Wire_91 wrote:its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are

Re: 21 man squad to face Catalans Saturday. : Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:41 am  
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And that's why the sport is heading for an early grave - including the NRL which is miles above us as a sporting spectacle.

We're sanitising the game for the sake of a small minority of people. Have a look at what the top viewed RL videos are on YouTube and it's full of big hits (many would carry a ban today) and fights. Why? Because people like watching confrontation. It's the reason people pay (not just watch) to see boxers on PPV, or why the UFC has exploded over the last 20 years. Guys like Eddie Hearn and Dana White saw what people wanted, gave it to them and made it must watch TV. We + RU took what was great and moved away from it.

BTW, apart from having huge by ratings, the Khan Vs Brook fight was full of celebrities & PL footballers - I remember a time when that was a Wigan Vs Saints derby. It was must see TV because you knew it would everything, including biff.

Why is football so popular then?
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Re: 21 man squad to face Catalans Saturday. : Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:50 am  
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And that's why the sport is heading for an early grave - including the NRL which is miles above us as a sporting spectacle.

We're sanitising the game for the sake of a small minority of people. Have a look at what the top viewed RL videos are on YouTube and it's full of big hits (many would carry a ban today) and fights. Why? Because people like watching confrontation. It's the reason people pay (not just watch) to see boxers on PPV, or why the UFC has exploded over the last 20 years. Guys like Eddie Hearn and Dana White saw what people wanted, gave it to them and made it must watch TV. We + RU took what was great and moved away from it.

BTW, apart from having huge by ratings, the Khan Vs Brook fight was full of celebrities & PL footballers - I remember a time when that was a Wigan Vs Saints derby. It was must see TV because you knew it would everything, including biff.


Rubbish! You don't make a lick of sense. The NRL has never had better viewing figures, it is booming, the game is awash with money in Oz. So you can't use accusations of sanitising the game being damaging there. The truth is, those who 'like the biff' are mostly sad old men (my age, I hasten t add) who are not the sport's future. Much like those who pine for winter rugby. From football to rugby union, even ice-hockey, the trend in all sports as been to cut the thuggery out. And quite right too. Sports need to be TV- and family-friendly.

I wonder if those people watching 'big hits' on YouTube have any real interest in the sport, or ever attend matches.
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