Re: Covid : Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:40 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Yes of course the only logical thing to do. Highly unlikely that it’s legal of course but hey face the consequences.

Seems to be ok for Morrisons, Next, Ikea, Ocado and Wessex Water to not pay their unvaccinated staff full sick pay when they are forced to isolate and instead give them SSP. Being unable to enter France to do your job because of your choice would be under a similar area of employment law, and thus I wouldnt put it past this Govt to actively support employers who took that stance.

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:45 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Thank you.

Pleased that they actually reported it albeit surprised that it wasn’t/isn’t considered to be a headline story.

I’m amazed and disappointed that our Parliament has voted for this.
A lot of loyal and highly trained staff are going to be thrown on the scrap heap for no guaranteed outcome even if all nhs staff are vaccinated.
Stupidity of the highest order.

Last week's stats - 93% of ICU Covid patients in the hospital my daugher works in were unvaccinated. Other 7% were one-jabbers. 0% double/triple jabbed.

She works in a large hospital in the West Midlands.

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:51 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Yes of course the only logical thing to do. Highly unlikely that it’s legal of course but hey face the consequences.

Also the unvaccinated nhs staff should also work for no pay then get rid of them in April once the winter season is over. Make them face the consequences once winter is over. It’s the only logical thing to do isn’t it?

they already are dismissing them arent they? my employer is doing it and is a huge global company so I suspect they know employment law

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:00 pm  

muttywhitedog wrote:

Last week's stats - 93% of ICU Covid patients in the hospital my daugher works in were unvaccinated. Other 7% were one-jabbers. 0% double/triple jabbed.

She works in a large hospital in the West Midlands.

Oh well then, let’s get it in now then based off one hospital and one week of data

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:04 pm  

muttywhitedog wrote:

Seems to be ok for Morrisons, Next, Ikea, Ocado and Wessex Water to not pay their unvaccinated staff full sick pay when they are forced to isolate and instead give them SSP. Being unable to enter France to do your job because of your choice would be under a similar area of employment law, and thus I wouldnt put it past this Govt to actively support employers who took that stance.

Who’s to say they haven’t just done that for publicity, it’s a pretty non sensical and redundant rule really given the employees could just delete the app

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:14 pm  

WiganRL12345 wrote:

Oh well then, let’s get it in now then based off one hospital and one week of data

Might only be one hospital in a large city, but its a fact - unlike the poop spouted on twitter.

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:25 pm  

muttywhitedog wrote:

Might only be one hospital in a large city, but its a fact - unlike the poop spouted on twitter.

Not suggesting what your daughter has told you isn’t true, just a meaningless piece of information isolated like that. Who mentioned Twitter? Not really sure what that has to do with it.

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:09 pm  

muttywhitedog wrote:

Seems to be ok for Morrisons, Next, Ikea, Ocado and Wessex Water to not pay their unvaccinated staff full sick pay when they are forced to isolate and instead give them SSP. Being unable to enter France to do your job because of your choice would be under a similar area of employment law, and thus I wouldnt put it past this Govt to actively support employers who took that stance.

If we accept the Morrisons of this world we are doomed.
A PE company who couldn’t give a flying shoite about anything other then turning their investment into a profit. They would sell their children to obtain a profit.

I wouldn’t touch their premises if they were offering a lifetime of free beer.

What should happen is make illegal to pay anyone who gets covid. Vaccinated or Unvaccinated.
Doesn’t matter what your contract says. Get covid no pay.

That’ll sort out a lot of people.
The majority of people with covid are vaccinated.

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:16 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

If we accept the Morrisons of this world we are doomed.
A PE company who couldn’t give a flying shoite about anything other then turning their investment into a profit. They would sell their children to obtain a profit.

I wouldn’t touch their premises if they were offering a lifetime of free beer.

What should happen is make illegal to pay anyone who gets covid. Vaccinated or Unvaccinated.
Doesn’t matter what your contract says. Get covid no pay.

That’ll sort out a lot of people.
The majority of people with covid are vaccinated.

Thank god you aren't in charge then.

I got Covid over Xmas and I'm fully jabbed and boosted. Why should i get docked pay for getting Ill? What an absolutely stupid comment to make.

Re: Covid : Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:27 pm  

Pieman wrote:

they already are dismissing them arent they? my employer is doing it and is a huge global company so I suspect they know employment law

If it was my company I’d resign and personally I’d chin my manager.
If there is an hill to die on this is it.
Will be interesting to see Pieman when someone actually does take this to court as this is inevitable. I’d happily fund any nurse or doctor suing the nation for it’s totally incomprehensible law of firing loyal staff because they don’t want to have vaccine that doesn’t guarantee you cannot get or pass on the virus. It’s a total utter nonsense.

I think February 3rd is d day so to speak. Johnson doesn’t know what day it is let alone the societal impact of this totalitarian statement will have. If this isn’t stopped life will have have irrecoverably changed for a generation or more.

The support on here and within society in general for nhs staff is lamentable.