Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:42 pm  

I like the new role for SW.
I’ve stated previously we’ve needed to strengthen our management across the entire club and SW is probably the perfect guy to perform the new role which will go some way in resolving some long standing issues across all aspects of management.

I thought Peet presented himself really well at the press conference and in the Wigan tv interview.
Particularly liked his comments on bringing the club, players and fans together. This has been sorely lacking in recent years ( predating Lam) and for me personally has been a major part of the enjoyment draining away on match days. Hopefully Peet will bring a more open approach from the club to fans.
Peet mentioning freedom as part of his vision is also encouraging.

Not sure about Briers but I’ve always liked a maverick so hopefully his mixture of styles with Peet and SOL could be a good combination.

Perhaps the most pleasing part of the announcements for me is the dropping of attacking and defence coaching roles.
I never understood how you can coach defence without thinking of attack and vice versa.

I still don’t think that the squad is good enough or has the right balance but more than happy to be proven wrong.

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:42 pm  

Nice to have some fresh ideas on board but ultimately any attacking coach will only thrive if the whole side starts to find an intensity to it’s play. We have an ability to hang in there in defence but everything else is just so slow. Our line speed in defence is ok, our kick chase is ok and no more, the intensity at which players run the ball is average and our passing is unbelievably sluggish. We have nobody willing to put any energy in to running off the ball, either as a dummy runner or by supporting the ball carrier and so on. The best attack coach in the world won’t get the improvements out of us unless Peet can get players bouncing, full of energy and fighting for every single inch, as the St Helens players do. If he can do that and then Briers can bring some smarts to the attack, it’s happy days and we’ll start to pick up.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:47 pm  

leg_end wrote:

It went something like this. "Play one, alpha, play two prop carry the ball to right hand post. Play three wide ball out to the left. Play four chip kick for winger, tell centre to be up in support"
And that's exactly what happened Wire went the length of the field and scored a superb try.

Unfortunately this is what is wrong with a lot of the game today. Players are told what plays to run and nobody seems to just play what is in front of them and react to the situation. Obviously structure is needed but the player who reacts to what he sees is worth his weight in gold.

So true - the last halfback we had who could see what was in front of him and adapt was Blake Green.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:50 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

Was he even at the club then?

Sounds very much like a "but but but but but" approach.

Who would you have appointed that would "shake things up" and what makes you think Peet won't now he has the main job?

Peet's only been away from the club for about a year over the last 13 so it wouldn't have been that difficult.

Hopefully the club considered Ciraldo at Penrith but I doubt it.

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:52 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Nice to have some fresh ideas on board but ultimately any attacking coach will only thrive if the whole side starts to find an intensity to it’s play. We have an ability to hang in there in defence but everything else is just so slow. Our line speed in defence is ok, our kick chase is ok and no more, the intensity at which players run the ball is average and our passing is unbelievably sluggish. We have nobody willing to put any energy in to running off the ball, either as a dummy runner or by supporting the ball carrier and so on. The best attack coach in the world won’t get the improvements out of us unless Peet can get players bouncing, full of energy and fighting for every single inch, as the St Helens players do. If he can do that and then Briers can bring some smarts to the attack, it’s happy days and we’ll start to pick up.

Unless I’ve misunderstood Peet’s comments (it has been a long day in my defence) but neither Briers or SOL will be attacking or defensive coach but will input on both parts of the game
I’m sure that there will be technical aspects where SOL may have for example more input on PTB situations but both coaches will have overall involvement and not be restricted to a particular segment of the game.

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:05 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

Peet's only been away from the club for about a year over the last 13 so it wouldn't have been that difficult.

Hopefully the club considered Ciraldo at Penrith but I doubt it.

So no reasons why he shouldn't get the job other than you didn't want him.

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:09 pm  

Itchy Arsenal wrote:

Unless I’ve misunderstood Peet’s comments (it has been a long day in my defence) but neither Briers or SOL will be attacking or defensive coach but will input on both parts of the game
I’m sure that there will be technical aspects where SOL may have for example more input on PTB situations but both coaches will have overall involvement and not be restricted to a particular segment of the game.

Lenagan made a real point of saying they’re both assistant coaches, not one defence coach and one attacking coach and Peet also said they’ll cross over. I got the sense from Peet that Briers will focus mostly on attack though and Lockers on defence but maybe with more cross over than before. Lenagan certainly seems to keep an eye on the forums (commenting about fans calling this move out as penny pinching today) and I could see them wanting to avoid the situation where fans are saying ‘poor attack means it’s Briers fault’ and ‘poor defence is Lockers fault’. We seemed to have a bit of that with Winder recently.

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:10 pm  

Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy wrote:

Peet's only been away from the club for about a year over the last 13 so it wouldn't have been that difficult.

Hopefully the club considered Ciraldo at Penrith but I doubt it.

Why would Ciraldo come? He turned Wests & the sharks down, so he knows he's on the radar of the NRL.

I honestly believe that, at this moment in time, there's a lack of quality options available in the NRL. I've said it before, but there's 5 or 6 assistants who've moved around in the last couple of years. It takes a while for things to settle and new guys to earn their stripes. After that Bennett will be pulling together a brand new coaching dept together for the expansion side.

Peet is was 100% the right option imo.

[Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy]

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:11 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

So no reasons why he shouldn't get the job other than you didn't want him.

I've given you plenty of reasons - you just decided to ignore them.

Re: OFFICIAL - Peet confirmed as new coach : Tue Oct 05, 2021 8:20 pm  

Certainly a step in the right direction. Quietly optimistic. Just.