Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:28 am  

Tony Soprano wrote:

It was a bad tackle, exactly the same as what Nick Scrutton was sent of for in 2008

Are you on Glue!!!!! how can you compare this tackle with the one by scruton!!????

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:35 am  

Vectrabeast wrote:

Are you on Glue!!!!! how can you compare this tackle with the one by scruton!!????

The only difference was that Coley was lucky as to how the player fell. A tiny amount more rotation and he's on his neck - it was very dangerous.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:45 am  

Vectrabeast wrote:

My point was clearly that Bentham saw it ONLY as a penalty When anything that is deemed bad enough to be charged with a Grade A offence should at least be worthy of 10 in the bin.

Like Coley's dangerous throw then?

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Wed Jun 02, 2010 9:53 am  

Vectrabeast wrote:

Are you on Glue!!!!! how can you compare this tackle with the one by scruton!!????

No thanks I've given the glue up.

The only difference was that the tackled player bent his back, the tackle made was just the same, had Delaney stayed straight he would have landed on his head.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:24 am  

mirfieldrhino wrote:

Like Coley's dangerous throw then?

If you like yes, I'm not condoning Coleys Tackle but there were 2 main differences, Delaney DID land on his back hence the Grade A if he had gone more vertical would have been worse than A its a fine line take sam tomkins tackle last week v crusaders was similar but with no case to answer, and delaney got up and played on with no problems. Joel was injured quite badly as a result of VERY dangerous play (albeit accidental) and needed 8 stitches in a severe cut and could have lost his eye.

A tackle can quite easily stray high or be a bit dangerous but you dont expect to be kicked fully in the face and there is NO NEED whatsoever for Seniors boot to be so high, Joel must be 6'4"ish!!!

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:27 am  

FearTheVee wrote:

The only difference was that Coley was lucky as to how the player fell. A tiny amount more rotation and he's on his neck - it was very dangerous.

Clearly not, if it was very dangerous as you put it it would be worse than a grade A. We are talking inches for gods sake!! Yes if he had been a few more inches over it would have been on his neck but you could argue if Peacocks "tackle" was a few inches higher it would have been a shocker!

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:35 am  

Tony Soprano wrote:

No thanks I've given the glue up.

The only difference was that the tackled player bent his back, the tackle made was just the same, had Delaney stayed straight he would have landed on his head.

Yes but Delaney DID stay straight, if he hadnt it would have been worse I agree, but the Judiciary will not use your example as defence for coley, they will look at the final outcome, Delaney landed on his back therefore making it less of an issue for coley. Next we will be saying Delaney should have thrown his head to the floor to make the punishment worse for coley (just like when Mcguire went down like he had been shot after Farrell caught him)


The attackers actions in the tackle have a major bearing on the outcome look at Sam when Peacock tackled him, if he had not put his arm up to protect himself he would have been caught on the chin and peacock would have been suspended (had an international not been coming up) but he wasnt and was very lucky that Sam put his arm up to protect himself.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:58 am  

Vectrabeast wrote:

Yes but Delaney DID stay straight, if he hadnt it would have been worse I agree, but the Judiciary will not use your example as defence for coley, they will look at the final outcome, Delaney landed on his back therefore making it less of an issue for coley. Next we will be saying Delaney should have thrown his head to the floor to make the punishment worse for coley (just like when Mcguire went down like he had been shot after Farrell caught him)


The attackers actions in the tackle have a major bearing on the outcome look at Sam when Peacock tackled him, if he had not put his arm up to protect himself he would have been caught on the chin and peacock would have been suspended (had an international not been coming up) but he wasnt and was very lucky that Sam put his arm up to protect himself.

No he didn't, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with the rest of your post? I have not made any mention as to what punishment Coley should or shouldn't receive.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:23 pm  

Tony Soprano wrote:

Was the advantage not played by Tomkins? had the ref blown with Tomkins ball in hand going for the line I'm sure you would not have been pleased.

Even if the advantage had been played it should have been 1st tackle, play the ball 10 metres out as Sam was held up over the line.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:53 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

Even if the advantage had been played it should have been 1st tackle, play the ball 10 metres out as Sam was held up over the line.

Was a very poor decision from the video ref. Bentham even says to him that Leeds have knocked on but he still gave a handover. Even the players are saying there were some poor calls in this weeks local paper