: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:43 am  

I expect it with most of my posts - People don't like hearing the truth, that's why they reply in such a way - Yeah they're entitled to their opinion, but come on, let's be real eh?

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:49 am  

LordLoveRocket87 wrote:

Sam Tomkins would get thrown around the field against the likes of Saints and Leeds, as would Shaun A.

what about against cas?

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:50 am  

LordLoveRocket87 wrote:

I expect it with most of my posts - People don't like hearing the truth, that's why they reply in such a way - Yeah they're entitled to their opinion, but come on, let's be real eh?

Look back through my posts and I've always suggested a softly softly approach with the younger players.

However, IF we have injuries like we appear to have, then particularly as we are playing one of the lower teams then Ainscough or Tomkins should be given a chance.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:51 am  

LordLoveRocket87 wrote:

I expect it with most of my posts - People don't like hearing the truth, that's why they reply in such a way - Yeah they're entitled to their opinion, but come on, let's be real eh?

You aren't really telling the truth though

People want to see the likes of Ainscough and S.Tomkins because they are very good, young players that have come through the ranks and think they can do just as good if not better job than the likes of Phelps etc.

They are the future of the club but if they aren't getting games there is wasted potential.

The RFL have introduced the license system so that young talents such as Ainscough and Tomkins can come through and develop into top players. This system has proven extremely successful in Australia but if we aren't going to take advantage we will always be stuck with aussie rejects when we all want to see young Wigan talents develop into the top class players we know they can be. Yes it will take time and patience but it will definitely be worth it

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:27 am  

wiganrlforever wrote:

Aint going to happen

re: ainscough starting


you will prove to be correct, coley will probably be back into the fray = all sorted as far as the Mr Noble is concerned.... shame really

rl : Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:37 am  

Castleford at home is ideal to play Tomkins or Ainscough as would Salford and Celtic be too. Saints or Leeds they shouldn't be anywhere near.
Hull played Paul King, Thackray & Manu (thugs r us) they'd have killed Tomkins or Ainscough!
Noble's got it right!

Re: rl : Mon Feb 16, 2009 11:42 am  

Father Ted wrote:

Castleford at home is ideal to play Tomkins or Ainscough as would Salford and Celtic be too. Saints or Leeds they shouldn't be anywhere near.
Hull played Paul King, Thackray & Manu (thugs r us) they'd have killed Tomkins or Ainscough!
Noble's got it right!

He hasn't played Ainscough or Tomkins yet

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:17 pm  

kirkamania6 wrote:

You aren't really telling the truth though

People want to see the likes of Ainscough and S.Tomkins because they are very good, young players that have come through the ranks and think they can do just as good if not better job than the likes of Phelps etc.

They are the future of the club but if they aren't getting games there is wasted potential.

The RFL have introduced the license system so that young talents such as Ainscough and Tomkins can come through and develop into top players. This system has proven extremely successful in Australia but if we aren't going to take advantage we will always be stuck with aussie rejects when we all want to see young Wigan talents develop into the top class players we know they can be. Yes it will take time and patience but it will definitely be worth it

Yeah i'd love to see them play, Sam's quality, he's fast, he's skillful, clever... He's exciting to watch - But what i'm saying is, Noble's right not playing him - He knows when to bring him in - He's not ready yet - You could see that at Warrington, he was a little ball greedy, and did a few stupid things - Even though he scored a hatrick.

It's debatable though i'll give you that - Because with Daz Goulding, he got offered a first team game, and look at him now - he's a first team regular at Number 3 - But then again, that wasn't with Noble at coach - And Noble is by far a better coach who knows what he's doing.

He won't be playing Ainscough or Sam against Cas, and if he does i'll be suprised - If you ask me, he should put them on loan, see how they do.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:23 pm  

LordLoveRocket87 wrote:

Yeah i'd love to see them play, Sam's quality, he's fast, he's skillful, clever... He's exciting to watch - But what i'm saying is, Noble's right not playing him - He knows when to bring him in - He's not ready yet - You could see that at Warrington, he was a little ball greedy, and did a few stupid things - Even though he scored a hatrick.

It's debatable though i'll give you that - Because with Daz Goulding, he got offered a first team game, and look at him now - he's a first team regular at Number 3 - But then again, that wasn't with Noble at coach - And Noble is by far a better coach who knows what he's doing.

He won't be playing Ainscough or Sam against Cas, and if he does i'll be suprised - If you ask me, he should put them on loan, see how they do.

lenaghan said pre-season that there wouldn't be any players loaned out.
if we leave them too long it could be another mark flanagan. remember that best in the country school boy we snatched from under the noses of bradford and a host of the other clubs?
he's now 21 and has played no more than a handful of first team games.

: Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:30 pm  

Catalancs wrote:

lenaghan said pre-season that there wouldn't be any players loaned out.
if we leave them too long it could be another mark flanagan. remember that best in the country school boy we snatched from under the noses of bradford and a host of the other clubs?
he's now 21 and has played no more than a handful of first team games.

He's had a couple of serious injuries that has kept him out for lengthy periods.