: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:41 pm  

MadDogg wrote:

With respect I see no reasons in your post above.

I am simply stating the facts, Lenagan does not help himself.

Wigan is one of the biggest rumour mills in the game. All kinds of names have been linked with us recently (and forever and a day) that bear no connection to reality. As far as I'm aware, IL has never mentioned Lockyer, Thurston, Cayless, Kite, Anasta, Fien, Price, Moi Moi, Hall etc.

As for the likes of Willie Mason, surely no-one in the right mind thinks that any SL club are going to sign him?

Didn't IL say something like "we're always interested in players of that quality"? It's hardly name-dropping. I'd agree that he has mentioned others that seem like more realistic targets - Webb, O'Meeley, Orford. But you're overstating the case hugely to say that he's building the fans' hopes up only to dash them, when, quite frankly, the fans have themselves been building some ridiculous over-expectations in this last month alone.

And to be honest, this kind of premature disappointment is a tad predictable. Two other clubs announce decent signings - Hall to Bradford and Long to Hull (Long, for Heaven's sake!), and all of sudden Wigan aren't delivering again. Why don't we just wait and see?

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:47 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

Wigan is one of the biggest rumour mills in the game. All kinds of names have been linked with us recently (and forever and a day) that bear no connection to reality. As far as I'm aware, IL has never mentioned Lockyer, Thurston, Cayless, Kite, Anasta, Fien, Price, Moi Moi, Hall etc.

As for the likes of Willie Mason, surely no-one in the right mind thinks that any SL club are going to sign him?

Didn't IL say something like "we're always interested in players of that quality"? It's hardly name-dropping. I'd agree that he has mentioned others that seem like more realistic targets - Webb, O'Meeley, Orford. But you're overstating the case hugely to say that he's building the fans' hopes up only to dash them, when, quite frankly, the fans have themselves been building some ridiculous over-expectations in this last month alone.

And to be honest, this kind of premature disappointment is a tad predictable. Two other clubs announce decent signings - Hall to Bradford and Long to Hull (Long, for Heaven's sake!), and all of sudden Wigan aren't delivering again. Why don't we just wait and see?

and soliola to saints

i think what madogg is getting at is the fact that for all the hopes of decent signings for last year we ended up with none (except gleeson mid-season) and the chairman is setting himself up for a fall by mentioning other players (whether he has said we are interested or not) and then failing to deliver the marquee signing we crave (although theres a long time for him to seal deals and announce them)

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:11 pm  

Just look at Saints for a template of how to run a club. They had Potter lined up 12 months ago and already next season's big moves (Long out, Soliola in) are done and dusted. We, in comparison, appear to be hanging in the wind - again.

I want to know what's happening with our coach and out of contract players now. What more does IL need to see? Take Noble, for example. He's had 3 years at the club - am I seriously being asked to believe that his future depends upon our results for the rest of this season?

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:15 pm  

Great point Jimmy, I think the results dependent must be a side step, you cant run a club from week to week its got to be year to year. I think Noble has to go, 12 points from 15 games is poor anyway you look at it.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:38 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

Just look at Saints for a template of how to run a club. They had Potter lined up 12 months ago and already next season's big moves (Long out, Soliola in) are done and dusted. We, in comparison, appear to be hanging in the wind - again.

I want to know what's happening with our coach and out of contract players now. What more does IL need to see? Take Noble, for example. He's had 3 years at the club - am I seriously being asked to believe that his future depends upon our results for the rest of this season?

No. I don't think you are.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:40 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

No. I don't think you are.

In which case, I await the announcement of our new coach!!

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:49 pm  

http://superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=14287 This been posted yet, I assume some will be disapointed. Expected it really.

http://superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=14287 This been posted yet, I assume some will be disapointed. Expected it really.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:51 pm  

jinkin jimmy wrote:

In which case, I await the announcement of our new coach!!

I appreciate the wink, but I doubt anything of that sort will happen now that we're in the cup semi - and that'll take us almost to the end of the season.

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:56 pm  

Cruncher wrote:

I appreciate the wink, but I doubt anything of that sort will happen now that we're in the cup semi - and that'll take us almost to the end of the season.

But doesn't that mean decisions will only happen based on future results? If not, I don't see a problem in announcing new deals - be they for players or a coach - now. It's not as if we are sacking anyone....

: Tue Jun 02, 2009 3:56 pm  

Bovrick wrote:

http://superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=14287

This been posted yet, I assume some will be disapointed. Expected it really.

Aslong as he doesn't end up at Saints i'm more then happy for him to stay at Hull KR.