Re: Cooper : Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:37 pm  

thesaint71 wrote:

Be interesting to see if any other player gets a 5 match ban for the same offence

Suppose it’ll depend on their history, especially history regarding those types of tackles.

Re: Cooper : Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:40 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Suppose it’ll depend on their history, especially history regarding those types of tackles.

Mike Critchley (from the St Helens Star ) has asked if the England v France game will count towards the ban for me it shouldn't

Re: Cooper : Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:45 pm  

thesaint71 wrote:

Mike Critchley (from the St Helens Star ) has asked if the England v France game will count towards the ban for me it shouldn't

It probably will although it shoudlnt

However, with the England being a certain Mr Wane, maybe he wont pick Knowles just to make sure he misses 5 league games....

Re: Cooper : Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:26 am  

[Gareth] wrote:

It probably will although it shoudlnt

However, with the England being a certain Mr Wane, maybe he wont pick Knowles just to make sure he misses 5 league games....

It won't matter, there's a reserves round the same weekend as the International and that WILL count for both Knowles and Dudson, and anybody else for that matter whose suspension falls on that weekend
I don't agree with it but it's always been the case and I'm sure we will have benefitted in the past, as Joe Westerman did earlier in the season.

Re: Cooper : Wed Apr 12, 2023 2:55 pm  

It's wrong, though, isn't it, whoever benefits? It's contrary to the spirit of the game, and should be stopped.

Re: Cooper : Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:02 pm  

moto748 wrote:

It's wrong, though, isn't it, whoever benefits? It's contrary to the spirit of the game, and should be stopped.

Agree 100%

Re: Cooper : Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:08 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

It won't matter, there's a reserves round the same weekend as the International and that WILL count for both Knowles and Dudson, and anybody else for that matter whose suspension falls on that weekend
I don't agree with it but it's always been the case and I'm sure we will have benefitted in the past, as Joe Westerman did earlier in the season.

we got it refused last year for Elllis's ban

Re: Cooper : Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:45 pm  

thesaint71 wrote: Be interesting to see if any other player gets a 5 match ban for the same offence We already know that they won't given Smithies got one match for a textbook hip drop in the same game: https://twitter.com/tony_gee21/status/1 ... m_mRScAkbA

thesaint71 wrote: Be interesting to see if any other player gets a 5 match ban for the same offence We already know that they won't given Smithies got one match for a textbook hip drop in the same game: https://twitter.com/tony_gee21/status/1 ... m_mRScAkbA

Re: Cooper : Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:58 pm  

FearTheVee wrote: We already know that they won't given Smithies got one match for a textbook hip drop in the same game: https://twitter.com/tony_gee21/status/1 ... m_mRScAkbA Welsby wasn’t being held by 2 other players, Smithies hasn’t been cautioned for it before and he hadn’t ruled a player out of the game for 6 months previously. That’s before we take in to account the 12 month injury caused ‘this time’. Other than that, it’s pretty much like for like.

FearTheVee wrote: We already know that they won't given Smithies got one match for a textbook hip drop in the same game: https://twitter.com/tony_gee21/status/1 ... m_mRScAkbA Welsby wasn’t being held by 2 other players, Smithies hasn’t been cautioned for it before and he hadn’t ruled a player out of the game for 6 months previously. That’s before we take in to account the 12 month injury caused ‘this time’. Other than that, it’s pretty much like for like.

Re: Cooper : Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:14 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

Welsby wasn’t being held by 2 other players, Smithies hasn’t been cautioned for it before and he hadn’t ruled a player out of the game for 6 months previously. That’s before we take in to account the 12 month injury caused ‘this time’.

Other than that, it’s pretty much like for like.

When has Knowles been charged for a hip drop tackle before? He may have been but the McGilivray one he certainly wasn't. Watching that video there are three in the tackle and Lussick seems to force Knowles over.

Just find it strange that a tackle that is under such scrutiny for being dangerous can attract a four match difference. Or is it just the injury? If so that seems odd as surely we should punish tackles that risk injury not wait until an injury then punish them more severely.

I'm not saying he didn't deserve a ban, just wonder what the 3/4 match difference between other recent hip drop tackles is all about - it's quite a gap!