Re: Why Wigan lost...... : Mon May 31, 2010 4:20 pm  

Chorley Rhino wrote:

The OP has a title on this thread of "Why Wigan lost......" Erm, pardom me for stating the obvious but dudnt we score more points than you?

I've never heard that one before.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:01 am  

Its strange because I, similar to Jiffy, felt Wigan were the more deserving team overall and were unlucky to fall victim of a big play in the last minute.

However, Sinfield had an off day with the boot. Most weeks Leeds wouldn't have been trailing as they were throughout that match and wouldn't have needed a last gasp winner.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:33 am  

Can anybody remember when they last saw a player penalised for kicking or throwing a ball away in frustration?? they tend to just call time off to get a ball on the field, I thought that decision whilst silly play from Coley was pedantic to say the least, The penalties against O'loughlin when his arm was trapped and the last one against Prescott were both Shocking decisions.


I completely agree that these decisions directly didn't cost us the game as this was down to a combination of a fingertip by roberts and a missed tackle by Gleeson but we are really suffering with 50/50 calls at the moment, possibly down to all the other coaches, chairmans etc whinging.


To me the fact that between this game and the Hudds game we have had 3 players binned and Leeds or Hudds had none speaks volumes. Senior, Mason and Peacock should have all had to sit out at least 10 mins in these games while Farrell should be recieving some kind of apology as his binning was a disgrace, he was clearly commited and most of my frustration at this decision is with Mcguire for going down like he had been shot by a sniper prompting the touchjudge to run on. It will be like football before long.


The biggest decision of the game though in my opinion was to rule a handover from the VR when Tomkins was held up, it was a blatant knock on by Smith that was missed and should have been a scrum to wigan on Leeds 10m line with 6 tackles and this COULD have had a major bearing on the game.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:53 am  

Vectrabeast wrote:

To me the fact that between this game and the Hudds game we have had 3 players binned and Leeds or Hudds had none speaks volumes. Senior, Mason and Peacock should have all had to sit out at least 10 mins in these games while Farrell should be recieving some kind of apology as his binning was a disgrace, he was clearly commited and most of my frustration at this decision is with Mcguire for going down like he had been shot by a sniper prompting the touchjudge to run on. It will be like football before long.


The biggest decision of the game though in my opinion was to rule a handover from the VR when Tomkins was held up, it was a blatant knock on by Smith that was missed and should have been a scrum to wigan on Leeds 10m line with 6 tackles and this COULD have had a major bearing on the game.

What action do you think should have been taken against Coley for the spear tackle?

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:03 pm  

Do you mean the one where he tackled Delaney and delaney landed on his back, similar to the Tomkins one against crusaders that faced No further action?


I think it was rightfully a penalty but I think he will get a caution at the worst for technique, didnt end up in a dangerous position.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:05 pm  

Tony Soprano wrote:

What action do you think should have been taken against Coley for the spear tackle?

None. It wasn't a spear tackle, just a Grade A dangerous throw.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:10 pm  

Charged with a Grade A, will probably get a £300 fine and No ban due to No previous appearences before the disciplinary. Harsh in my opinion but prabably lenient in the eyes of Leeds fans!!

Interesting that Senior could face a ban but Bentham saw it as only a penalty

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:59 pm  

Vectrabeast wrote:

the penalty against O'loughlin when his arm was trapped.

Abllet totally conned the ref with that one.

One that you got away with, however, was for a possible voluntary tackle by Stuart Fielden.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:09 pm  

Offside Monkey wrote:

Abllet totally conned the ref with that one.

One that you got away with, however, was for a possible voluntary tackle by Stuart Fielden.

Ref called "play on" and Stu rightly did attempt to get to his feet plus it didnt matter as if Fielden is on the floor which he was, it only takes a fingertip to touch him and tackle is deemed complete, it was BENThams mistake calling play on as Fielden was touched when he was on the floor therefore he rightly thought tackle was complete until BENTham called play on, if Fielden had attempted to play the ball he would have been penalised.

Re: Why Wigan let Leeds score more points than them...... : Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:27 pm  

Vectrabeast wrote:

Ref called "play on" and Stu rightly did attempt to get to his feet plus it didnt matter as if Fielden is on the floor which he was, it only takes a fingertip to touch him and tackle is deemed complete, it was BENThams mistake calling play on as Fielden was touched when he was on the floor therefore he rightly thought tackle was complete until BENTham called play on, if Fielden had attempted to play the ball he would have been penalised.

So the penalty cannot be given unless they try and play the ball? Fair enough, I should remeber the small print from the whole Chris Joynt business.Stu certainly took a bit of convincing to get up though!