Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:39 am  

Pieman wrote:

so we've signed a championship left winger to play on the right....cool

Where has this idea come from that wingers can't play on both sides? It's not like it's football where they will be sticking crosses in.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:28 am  

Grimmy wrote:

Where has this idea come from that wingers can't play on both sides? It's not like it's football where they will be sticking crosses in.

Almost every winger tends to have a side that they don't deviate from?

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:53 am  

Wingers are the least of our problems. I’ve no issue with signing Miski (assuming we have) if it allows us to strengthen where we need to.

From the 1st team we are loosing Gildart, Hastings, Clubb and Bullock. Possibly French and Clarke.

We need 2 experienced yardage as a minimum and probably a half as I’m not sure Smith and Field as a combo will give us the direction we need.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:25 am  

Grimmy wrote:

Where has this idea come from that wingers can't play on both sides? It's not like it's football where they will be sticking crosses in.

It’s to do with their step, carry and how they defend.

I am sure all wingers can play both sides but if you tend to play one side you have to mirror image certain things to switch to the other side which can feel unnatural.

It’s not the end of the world but it probably means a reduction in performance.

Similar issues with all the strike players really such as centres and secondrow players too. They can play both sides but are maybe less effective playing on their non natural side.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:17 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

Where has this idea come from that wingers can't play on both sides? It's not like it's football where they will be sticking crosses in.

Havin played Wing and Centre, albeit Amateur level, the sides makes a huge difference to:
1 - Tackling - Some players will have a preferred shoulder to tackle with. Since you defend on your outside, the side of pitch you play could result in you being required to predominantly use your non-favorable side

2 - Running angles - (Farrell, although second rower, is clearly better at running angles on one side of the pitch)

3 - Holding the ball / fending off / scoring - Some wingers are exceptional finishers. Some of that ability will come from the way the fend off with one arm, hold the ball and ground with the other. If a winger has a favorable side, it will impact this. I preferred fending with my left and holding the ball with my right.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:08 pm  

I'm not saying there's no difference, but I think it's negligible, especially after a full pre-season training on the side they will be playing on. He's not really stepping or doing superman finishes in the corner, or hasn't in the 3 London games I've seen this year, and the highlights we have all seen. He is fairly fast, strong for a winger and has a good workrate. He will still have those attributes on the other side of the pitch.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Jun 24, 2021 1:29 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

I'm not saying there's no difference, but I think it's negligible, especially after a full pre-season training on the side they will be playing on. He's not really stepping or doing superman finishes in the corner, or hasn't in the 3 London games I've seen this year, and the highlights we have all seen. He is fairly fast, strong for a winger and has a good workrate. He will still have those attributes on the other side of the pitch.

Based on what is it negligible?

I am guessing you've never played Rugby in your life with that comment.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:51 pm  

nathan_rugby wrote:

Based on what is it negligible?

I am guessing you've never played Rugby in your life with that comment.

I've played wing at amateur level the same as you, and am involved in the game at all levels. If I only get to three games in any given week, then it has been a quiet one.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:54 pm  

nathan_rugby wrote:

Havin played Wing and Centre, albeit Amateur level, the sides makes a huge difference to:
1 - Tackling - Some players will have a preferred shoulder to tackle with. Since you defend on your outside, the side of pitch you play could result in you being required to predominantly use your non-favorable side

2 - Running angles - (Farrell, although second rower, is clearly better at running angles on one side of the pitch)

3 - Holding the ball / fending off / scoring - Some wingers are exceptional finishers. Some of that ability will come from the way the fend off with one arm, hold the ball and ground with the other. If a winger has a favorable side, it will impact this. I preferred fending with my left and holding the ball with my right.

me also and totally agree

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:58 pm  

Grimmy wrote:

I've played wing at amateur level the same as you, and am involved in the game at all levels. If I only get to three games in any given week, then it has been a quiet one.

so you could step on any foot, step of either foot aswell as each other, defend on each shoulder without any drop in performance and fend and carry easily with both hands? Thats awesome if as not many can at pro level, it makes a huge difference which side is preferred and played at.