Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:57 am  

Just because we don't know who the two marquee players are doesn't mean we don't have them. The only people that need to know are the RFL and Salary Cap auditors.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 14, 2021 9:58 am  

Egg Chasing wrote: Just because we don't know who the two marquee players are doesn't mean we don't have them. The only people that need to know are the RFL and Salary Cap auditors. This isnt strictly true ... however there are different interpretations of the regulations. The Regulations State; "The identity of any Marquee Player shall not be kept confidential." https://secure.rugby-league.com/ign_doc ... 202016.pdf Now different clubs have interpreted this differently (Saints for example interpret as satisfying this regulation by literally using the word "marquee" in signing announcements, but I dont know every club follows that). But it does involve the media knowing. The last marquee signed by any club was Sezer at Huddersfield - and helpfully the below was put together: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 20-3587721 Quite a few have dropped out since then (Merrin, Burgess, SBW). Unless someone has signed a marquee contract since Burgess required (I fully admit not to be able to say who has signed contracts since that happened, let alone who might be likely to be earning above the threshold for marquees), we can be fairly confident that Wigan currently have 1 marquee.

Egg Chasing wrote: Just because we don't know who the two marquee players are doesn't mean we don't have them. The only people that need to know are the RFL and Salary Cap auditors. This isnt strictly true ... however there are different interpretations of the regulations. The Regulations State; "The identity of any Marquee Player shall not be kept confidential." https://secure.rugby-league.com/ign_doc ... 202016.pdf Now different clubs have interpreted this differently (Saints for example interpret as satisfying this regulation by literally using the word "marquee" in signing announcements, but I dont know every club follows that). But it does involve the media knowing. The last marquee signed by any club was Sezer at Huddersfield - and helpfully the below was put together: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 20-3587721 Quite a few have dropped out since then (Merrin, Burgess, SBW). Unless someone has signed a marquee contract since Burgess required (I fully admit not to be able to say who has signed contracts since that happened, let alone who might be likely to be earning above the threshold for marquees), we can be fairly confident that Wigan currently have 1 marquee.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:00 am  

Magic Superbeetle wrote: This isnt strictly true ... however there are different interpretations of the regulations. The Regulations State; "The identity of any Marquee Player shall not be kept confidential." Now different clubs have interpreted this differently (Saints for example interpret as satisfying this regulation by literally using the word "marquee" in signing announcements, but I dont know every club follows that). But it does involve the media knowing. The last marquee signed by any club was Sezer at Huddersfield - and helpfully the below was put together: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 20-3587721 Quite a few have dropped out since then (Merrin, Burgess, SBW). Unless someone has signed a marquee contract since Burgess required (I fully admit not to be able to say who has signed contracts since that happened, let alone who might be likely to be earning above the threshold for marquees), we can be fairly confident that Wigan currently have 1 marquee. AFAIK our marquees where Burgess and Bateman. Burgess has gone so that leaves 1 free

Magic Superbeetle wrote: This isnt strictly true ... however there are different interpretations of the regulations. The Regulations State; "The identity of any Marquee Player shall not be kept confidential." Now different clubs have interpreted this differently (Saints for example interpret as satisfying this regulation by literally using the word "marquee" in signing announcements, but I dont know every club follows that). But it does involve the media knowing. The last marquee signed by any club was Sezer at Huddersfield - and helpfully the below was put together: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 20-3587721 Quite a few have dropped out since then (Merrin, Burgess, SBW). Unless someone has signed a marquee contract since Burgess required (I fully admit not to be able to say who has signed contracts since that happened, let alone who might be likely to be earning above the threshold for marquees), we can be fairly confident that Wigan currently have 1 marquee. AFAIK our marquees where Burgess and Bateman. Burgess has gone so that leaves 1 free

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 14, 2021 10:08 am  

Magic Superbeetle wrote: This isnt strictly true ... however there are different interpretations of the regulations. The Regulations State; "The identity of any Marquee Player shall not be kept confidential." https://secure.rugby-league.com/ign_doc ... 202016.pdf Now different clubs have interpreted this differently (Saints for example interpret as satisfying this regulation by literally using the word "marquee" in signing announcements, but I dont know every club follows that). But it does involve the media knowing. The last marquee signed by any club was Sezer at Huddersfield - and helpfully the below was put together: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 20-3587721 Quite a few have dropped out since then (Merrin, Burgess, SBW). Unless someone has signed a marquee contract since Burgess required (I fully admit not to be able to say who has signed contracts since that happened, let alone who might be likely to be earning above the threshold for marquees), we can be fairly confident that Wigan currently have 1 marquee. i think tetavano is one at leeds, and the other was hurrell,

Magic Superbeetle wrote: This isnt strictly true ... however there are different interpretations of the regulations. The Regulations State; "The identity of any Marquee Player shall not be kept confidential." https://secure.rugby-league.com/ign_doc ... 202016.pdf Now different clubs have interpreted this differently (Saints for example interpret as satisfying this regulation by literally using the word "marquee" in signing announcements, but I dont know every club follows that). But it does involve the media knowing. The last marquee signed by any club was Sezer at Huddersfield - and helpfully the below was put together: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 20-3587721 Quite a few have dropped out since then (Merrin, Burgess, SBW). Unless someone has signed a marquee contract since Burgess required (I fully admit not to be able to say who has signed contracts since that happened, let alone who might be likely to be earning above the threshold for marquees), we can be fairly confident that Wigan currently have 1 marquee. i think tetavano is one at leeds, and the other was hurrell,

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:05 am  

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote: i think tetavano is one at leeds, and the other was hurrell, I forgot Tetavano replaced Merrin at Leeds, thank you! Though as reference it does show that generally when players sign as a marquee, it is announced by media (ie https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/rugb ... s-19898432) I cant find any references to Bateman being a marquee, other than when he left in 2018 being promised a marquee contract upon his return ...

Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote: i think tetavano is one at leeds, and the other was hurrell, I forgot Tetavano replaced Merrin at Leeds, thank you! Though as reference it does show that generally when players sign as a marquee, it is announced by media (ie https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/rugb ... s-19898432) I cant find any references to Bateman being a marquee, other than when he left in 2018 being promised a marquee contract upon his return ...

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:27 am  

Magic Superbeetle wrote: This isnt strictly true ... however there are different interpretations of the regulations. The Regulations State; "The identity of any Marquee Player shall not be kept confidential." https://secure.rugby-league.com/ign_doc ... 202016.pdf Now different clubs have interpreted this differently (Saints for example interpret as satisfying this regulation by literally using the word "marquee" in signing announcements, but I dont know every club follows that). But it does involve the media knowing. The last marquee signed by any club was Sezer at Huddersfield - and helpfully the below was put together: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 20-3587721 Quite a few have dropped out since then (Merrin, Burgess, SBW). Unless someone has signed a marquee contract since Burgess required (I fully admit not to be able to say who has signed contracts since that happened, let alone who might be likely to be earning above the threshold for marquees), we can be fairly confident that Wigan currently have 1 marquee. Maybe the media do know who it is then. Just because we on this forum don't know doesn't mean we don't have them.

Magic Superbeetle wrote: This isnt strictly true ... however there are different interpretations of the regulations. The Regulations State; "The identity of any Marquee Player shall not be kept confidential." https://secure.rugby-league.com/ign_doc ... 202016.pdf Now different clubs have interpreted this differently (Saints for example interpret as satisfying this regulation by literally using the word "marquee" in signing announcements, but I dont know every club follows that). But it does involve the media knowing. The last marquee signed by any club was Sezer at Huddersfield - and helpfully the below was put together: https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... 20-3587721 Quite a few have dropped out since then (Merrin, Burgess, SBW). Unless someone has signed a marquee contract since Burgess required (I fully admit not to be able to say who has signed contracts since that happened, let alone who might be likely to be earning above the threshold for marquees), we can be fairly confident that Wigan currently have 1 marquee. Maybe the media do know who it is then. Just because we on this forum don't know doesn't mean we don't have them.

[Fantastic Mr Catpiss]

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 14, 2021 11:32 am  

Magic Superbeetle wrote: I forgot Tetavano replaced Merrin at Leeds, thank you! Though as reference it does show that generally when players sign as a marquee, it is announced by media (ie https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/rugb ... s-19898432) I cant find any references to Bateman being a marquee, other than when he left in 2018 being promised a marquee contract upon his return ... see, i dunno about prior, my logic on this has been, anyone thats above average or a 'name' in the nrl could feasibly be a marquee player, Prior could be, ex origin, /roo but at the same time, he's 34 and this is his last contract. They could get him on a big(ish) money deal, non marquee.

Magic Superbeetle wrote: I forgot Tetavano replaced Merrin at Leeds, thank you! Though as reference it does show that generally when players sign as a marquee, it is announced by media (ie https://www.leeds-live.co.uk/sport/rugb ... s-19898432) I cant find any references to Bateman being a marquee, other than when he left in 2018 being promised a marquee contract upon his return ... see, i dunno about prior, my logic on this has been, anyone thats above average or a 'name' in the nrl could feasibly be a marquee player, Prior could be, ex origin, /roo but at the same time, he's 34 and this is his last contract. They could get him on a big(ish) money deal, non marquee.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:45 pm  

Surely (and don’t call me Shirley) It would make sense that the two top earners are classed as marquee for all clubs so that only £150k of their salary counts towards the cap??

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:55 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Surely (and don’t call me Shirley) It would make sense that the two top earners are classed as marquee for all clubs so that only £150k of their salary counts towards the cap??

It does, but Wigan haven't told everyone on RLFANS who they are so we either don't have 2 or we're cheating again.

Re: Rumours and signings v9 : Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:10 pm  

Bigredwarrior wrote:

Surely (and don’t call me Shirley) It would make sense that the two top earners are classed as marquee for all clubs so that only £150k of their salary counts towards the cap??

Not every club will have players who earn £150k + and even if they did, not every club will spend up to the cap so wouldn't actually benefit from the rule.