Re: Grand Final : Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:50 pm  

DannyT wrote:

That’s some incredible positive reaching for what we have put together for next year. We don’t have the fitness/size/ability to compete at that level.

We showed 12 months ago that we can compete, we have just gone backwards massively in that time.

Re: Grand Final : Sat Oct 09, 2021 8:08 pm  

Egg Chasing wrote:

We showed 12 months ago that we can compete, we have just gone backwards massively in that time.

Exactly. We benefited from covid in a way others did not. I’d rather look forward to what’s in store to be honest. With absolute dread.

Re: Grand Final : Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:10 pm  

I agree the Makinson yellow was harsh. I did wonder of there's was an element of totting up there, as he'd already been pinged at least twice before. The offside player thing, I dunno, I'll have to re-watch it.Should we criticise Davies' positioning? Should he have been on the side-line, or is that harsh?

Re: Grand Final : Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:49 am  

moto748 wrote:

I agree the Makinson yellow was harsh. I did wonder of there's was an element of totting up there, as he'd already been pinged at least twice before. The offside player thing, I dunno, I'll have to re-watch it.Should we criticise Davies' positioning? Should he have been on the side-line, or is that harsh?

Denies a try scoring opportunity so it's a yellow.

Re: Grand Final : Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:27 am  

The simple truth is that because of the financial situation of the last three seasons or so, the club has fallen behind the playing level of St Helens and now Catalan and it is not just confined to the men's game, but also the womens game where they have slipped from being in the top three club's to fifth.

The quality level of both squads in the same period has not been to the standard expected by Wigan supporters and needs to be rectified by the club, if it wants to get back to the success of the past.

IL and KR have provided the coaching team, now they also need to provide a squad of better and bigger players in both the men's and the women's games.

Re: Grand Final : Sun Oct 10, 2021 10:02 am  

Ruddy Duck wrote:

The simple truth is that because of the financial situation of the last three seasons or so, the club has fallen behind the playing level of St Helens and now Catalan and it is not just confined to the men's game, but also the womens game where they have slipped from being in the top three club's to fifth.

The quality level of both squads in the same period has not been to the standard expected by Wigan supporters and needs to be rectified by the club, if it wants to get back to the success of the past.

IL and KR have provided the coaching team, now they also need to provide a squad of better and bigger players in both the men's and the women's games.

The women’s game is much easier to manipulate. Look at the Saints squad and then suddenly everyone seemingly going to York at one point. There aren’t enough girls playing yet to keep the game as competitive as it needs to be.

Re: Grand Final : Sun Oct 10, 2021 1:55 pm  

Enjoyed the day and the game. It was much much closer than I expected and I probably felt Catalans were slightly unfortunate to get beat. The lads with that GF experience, who they needed to stand up did and they nearly got the job done. As for Saints you absolutely cannot take anything away from them and an achievement of doing three in a row is pretty special. Their level isn’t anything teams should be intimidated by but there is work to do for everyone to catch up. They are so consistent in the their basics and after a few blow ups under Holbrook in big games, they’ve now learned to stay calm and not panic in big moments.

Here’s to a more normal season for the whole game next year and hopefully an improved one for us.

Re: Grand Final : Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:02 pm  

Guasch is not happy https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... -referees/ I forgot about the Matautia one. Under today’s rules he should seen red.

Guasch is not happy https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... -referees/ I forgot about the Matautia one. Under today’s rules he should seen red.

Re: Grand Final : Sun Oct 10, 2021 2:34 pm  

Trainman wrote: Guasch is not happy https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... -referees/ I forgot about the Matautia one. Under today’s rules he should seen red. While it was a nothing punch, it was certainly a punch, which is a red card under current rules. The foot in touch thing was laughably ridiculous. I can forgive the ref for missing it, but his touch-judges? The video ref? It won't change anything result-wise, but that level of incompetence needs investigating and punishments should be handed out. But let's be honest, it's a bit rich the Catalan owner complaining about rule-breakers. Someone remind me again how he secured Sam Tomkins' signature?

Trainman wrote: Guasch is not happy https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/ca ... -referees/ I forgot about the Matautia one. Under today’s rules he should seen red. While it was a nothing punch, it was certainly a punch, which is a red card under current rules. The foot in touch thing was laughably ridiculous. I can forgive the ref for missing it, but his touch-judges? The video ref? It won't change anything result-wise, but that level of incompetence needs investigating and punishments should be handed out. But let's be honest, it's a bit rich the Catalan owner complaining about rule-breakers. Someone remind me again how he secured Sam Tomkins' signature?

Re: Grand Final : Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:18 pm  

only 45,000 there the lowest gf crowd apart from last years behind closed doors since 1998