Re: rl : Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:04 pm  

LovesToSpooge wrote:

it just makes you wonder what the fault was in Tronc's case.

I doubt they even knew who he was to have a look at him.

To me the club gets fed bull*hit from NRL players agents and fall for it bigtime. If they've heard of them at all, yet they're still cheap they'll take a punt but with somebody like Tronc he's not a big name and we'd have been too busy fannying about looking at Carl Webb and wheather to break the minimum wage to sign him we've missed out on exactly the type of player we needed, playing well, right under Mr Lenagans nose.

The squad has more depth to it then it has had for a long while and thats good but to win trophies you need at least 3 or 4 top class players and we don't have them. We had 2 in Hock and O'Loughlin and thats now dropped to 1.

We have to start developing more of our own quality players but that will only happen if they come into a side containing some quality already that gives them a liecence to play with freedom and protection and our youngsters don't get that.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:06 pm  

[Gareth] wrote:

i can only think he has something up his sleeve to announce after our final game of the season

Well it better be world class quality because whats the point in waiting to the end of the season to announce a webb or paultua (sp)

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:13 pm  

wigan_knight wrote:

Well it better be world class quality because whats the point in waiting to the end of the season to announce a webb or paultua (sp)

if i was dreaming id say we where not announcing any signings as we are looking at SL players to sign and therefore cant announce anything until after the anti-tampering deadline

saying that, i dont think theres the anyone of quality whos ooc so transfer fee's would be necessary

we missed out big time on carvell but if hes on an absolute fortune then i can understand not signing him but we must be looking at similar quality players

can you imagine the reaction if we signed any one (preferably two) of:

Graham (stains fans will love that one )
LMS
L Burgess
S Burgess
Peacock

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:17 pm  

I’ve been a staunch supporter of IL up to now but;

We need a prop and a half back for next season it’s been glaringly obvious since the moment Trent decided he was leaving.

Everyone apart from IL can see it but yet he does sweet FA about it. Like another poster said if you want to you could pick faults in every player out there and decide against it

It’s just not acceptable that there have been some excellent players who have either resigned with their current teams i.e Dobson, Lockyer and Orford or good players gone to other teams- Carvel, Ryles, Tronc, O’Meley or worst of all good players he’s turned down i.e Webb!!!!!! WTF is IL not signing Webb for when he’s available? IL has lost a hell of a lot of credibility for me by turning a class enforcer prop with a real nasty streak down like Carl Webb.

I’m really starting to think that IL is a tight fisted owner of this club and although I’d be more than happy to eat my words and be proved wrong I honestly can’t see us signing a top draw Aussie player like Renouf, Lam or Barrett ever again under him as he just won’t pay the money that is required. (Gleeson is good btw but not in the same league as the above imo)

It’s a safe bet to say that if Mo would have been in charge and would have had at least one of Thurston, Lockyer or Dobson playing for us. No if’s or buts about it MO made the signings happen and yes some were bad like DV or Ainscough but his good ones Lam, Renouf, Richards, Feka, Trent, Newton, Dallas, Furner & Fletcher far outweighed them imo.

IL could well lack the balls to be the Wigan chairman imo………..

Re: rl : Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:17 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I doubt they even knew who he was to have a look at him.

To me the club gets fed bull*hit from NRL players agents and fall for it bigtime. If they've heard of them at all, yet they're still cheap they'll take a punt but with somebody like Tronc he's not a big name and we'd have been too busy fannying about looking at Carl Webb and wheather to break the minimum wage to sign him we've missed out on exactly the type of player we needed, playing well, right under Mr Lenagans nose.

The squad has more depth to it then it has had for a long while and thats good but to win trophies you need at least 3 or 4 top class players and we don't have them. We had 2 in Hock and O'Loughlin and thats now dropped to 1.

We have to start developing more of our own quality players but that will only happen if they come into a side containing some quality already that gives them a liecence to play with freedom and protection and our youngsters don't get that.

I read somewhere probably in the Wigan Evening Post that the club have supposedly a number of ex NRL coaches who advice them on who's available, what kind of form there in and whether we as a club should sign them.

I suppose the big question now seeing Tronc's signed for Wakey, is who are we chasing if anyone? One of the only people left that I know who is available and could do a job for us would N Cayless.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:20 pm  

thepriestman85 wrote:

I’ve been a staunch supporter of IL up to now but;

We need a prop and a half back for next season it’s been glaringly obvious since the moment Trent decided he was leaving.

Everyone apart from IL can see it but yet he does sweet FA about it. Like another poster said if you want to you could pick faults in every player out there and decide against it

It’s just not acceptable that there have been some excellent players who have either resigned with their current teams i.e Dobson, Lockyer and Orford or good players gone to other teams- Carvel, Ryles, Tronc, O’Meley or worst of all good players he’s turned down i.e Webb!!!!!! WTF is IL not signing Webb for when he’s available? IL has lost a hell of a lot of credibility for me by turning a class enforcer prop with a real nasty streak down like Carl Webb.

I’m really starting to think that IL is a tight fisted owner of this club and although I’d be more than happy to eat my words and be proved wrong I honestly can’t see us signing a top draw Aussie player like Renouf, Lam or Barrett ever again under him as he just won’t pay the money that is required. (Gleeson is good btw but not in the same league as the above imo)

It’s a safe bet to say that if Mo would have been in charge and would have had at least one of Thurston, Lockyer or Dobson playing for us. No if’s or buts about it MO made the signings happen and yes some were bad like DV or Ainscough but his good ones Lam, Renouf, Richards, Feka, Trent, Newton, Dallas, Furner & Fletcher far outweighed them imo.

IL could well lack the balls to be the Wigan chairman imo………..

MAURICE IN

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:23 pm  

I think the signings are already in place and will be announced after the new coach is named.

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:27 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I think the signings are already in place and will be announced after the new coach is named.

Griffin?

Re: rl : Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:27 pm  

NickyKiss wrote:

I doubt they even knew who he was to have a look at him.

IL has seen him play this season as he's watched Webb play live. I'm sure Tronc played really well in the game IL was there as well

It’s really starting to pee me off that other teams like Saints get their business sorted nice and early with minimal drama. They need a coach so they go out and sign Potter with plenty of time in the season. They are lacking fire power up front so they sign Pauleta to bolster them or the see a weakness in the centre position and go out and sign a quality young player like Soliola.

Why is it we still have an underperforming coach who no one knows what to do with? We’ve still not announced one signing for next season either?

: Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:28 pm  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

I think the signings are already in place and will be announced after the new coach is named.

What makes you think that?

The more time that goes by without a signing being announced the more I think we have no-one lined up. Don't think there is a new coach lined up either.