Re: The Sending Off : Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:27 am  

They need a good sit down the refs to work out exactly how these decisions are being implemented. Everything was a red at the start of the season, so they get bagged but then rather than just being sensible and going back to how games have been reffed over the last decade, they then get to the point where nothing is a red, even challenges like the Napa and McIlorum ones, which would be a red this season, last season or ten seasons ago. They then get more stick and a fuss blows up when Singleton gets sent off for a challenge that is nowhere near as bad as those 2 last week but had it not been for the 2 Catalans challenges we all just sit there and go ‘well I can see why it’s given’.

It’s a mess of the games own making and it needs sorting.

Re: The Sending Off : Mon Jul 11, 2022 9:30 am  

[quote="NickyKiss"]They need a good sit down the refs to work out exactly how these decisions are being implemented. Everything was a red at the start of the season, so they get bagged but then rather than just being sensible and going back to how games have been reffed over the last decade, they then get to the point where nothing is a red, even challenges like the Napa and McIlorum ones, which would be a red this season, last season or ten seasons ago. They then get more stick and a fuss blows up when Singleton gets sent off for a challenge that is nowhere near as bad as those 2 last week but had it not been for the 2 Catalans challenges we all just sit there and go ‘well I can see why it’s given’.

It’s a mess of the games own making and it needs sorting.[/quot

Would it be a lot better when they used to put them on report like they used to do and leave 13 against 13.

Re: The Sending Off : Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:37 am  

I've only seen the sky highlights last night as were up there for the weekend. At the game I was on the 20 metre line, it looked to me that Field made the tackle and that turned Sironen so that Singleton came from behind him and Sironen fell. What I noticed on the highlights was that no Saints player even looked to the referee for the penalty, indeed Lussick? was encouraging Sironen to get up to play the ball.

Let's see what comes out of the disciplinary today, but a sending off looked very harsh. I think the refereeing inconsistency in games this season has been baffling tbh.

Re: The Sending Off : Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:39 am  

[quote="Ashton Bears"]
The arguement there is that the "offended against" team doesn't get the benefit. That said there is too much inconsistency in how offences are being dealt with. I'm not for a minute suggesting it was a sending off but Roby on Farrell was direct contact to the head with no malice; penalty. Singleton's was direct contact to the head with no malice; red card. Is that too big a leap? Difficult to say but, in context of the match and the spirit it was played in, I'd have said yellow was enough.

Re: The Sending Off : Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:43 am  

[quote="Phuzzy"]

Singo was the shoulder which (as I understand it anyway) is the big difference.

Both were penalties which the referee didn't actually give at the time.

Re: The Sending Off : Mon Jul 11, 2022 10:57 am  

[quote="Egg Chasing"]
Probably mate, but a big enough difference to warrant the sending off? Hit someone high with your hand or arm and you can still get sent off if there's malice. I think too much is being made of the shoulder too. That's exactly how you should be hitting someone in the tackle (see Tommy) as long as it's into the body, which is what Singleton was clearly intending to do.

The Roby one I was referring to was in the first half and a penalty was given.

Re: The Sending Off : Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:02 am  

[quote="Phuzzy"]

The penalty was only given because Faz stayed down (which he is being accused of milking the penalty for) originally it was play on as the Singleton incident was.

Re: The Sending Off : Mon Jul 11, 2022 11:44 am  

[quote="Egg Chasing"]
With you. I thought you meant it wasn't given at all. Agreed then

Re: The Sending Off : Mon Jul 11, 2022 12:14 pm  

If ever there's a case for "sending off sufficient", this is it.

Re: The Sending Off : Mon Jul 11, 2022 2:08 pm  

apollosghost wrote:

If ever there's a case for "sending off sufficient", this is it.

Forget that, 3 matches, wonder if we can borrow Saints appeals guy