Re: Fans consultation : Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:43 pm  

WQ in respect of your club strategy point I see that the first Championship signings for next season are beginning to come through. As per this season Broncos are conspicuous by their absence save the earlier rumour of Richards to Leigh and the news today that Fozard is off to Widnes. It really would be good to hear some encouraging words on recruitment or at least clarity that we are indeed out of the market.

Re: Fans consultation : Thu Sep 02, 2021 12:05 am  

wire-quin wrote:

At times GF you really do show corporate naivety (maybe thats why you aren't employed by a global first world corporate.) Why would any company provide any response to points 2 and 4 (Add in 3) to a few fans in a pub? Just think that through.

Should I ask what DH input will be or current debt or maybe go the whole hog and request the LB 2020/21 detailed spend 'Spreadsheet'!

Not at all. I don't expect answers to any of the questions, but it doesn't mean they don't need asking.

Question 2 is based around the maths of ticketing income streams as explained to me by the then clubs CEO back in 2007. 60% of the on the day ticket price is the average income stream. If you accept that A) the 350 declared at the weekend is accurate and B) that they all paid to get in, then of the supposed £7,000 taken on the gate, £4,200 was income for the club.. At current levels, we'd need 50 home games to cover the rent at Plough Lane....and that;' based on everybody being there and paying to be there last Sunday.

Question 4 is based around the number of club "partners' who have appeared on shirts over the years rather than paying sponsors. We currently don't actually produce any replica shirts in volumes any more because we don't sell any. The last shirt I bought for myself at the club was at The Hive....the ones that went unsold that day were shipped off to Africa IIRC. .my last visit to Trailfinders saw me buy my boy a shirt, because there were no adult ones available. A shirt sponsor would expect at least a few hundred of 'their logos' would be walking about in the stands etc.....but regardless...and my corporate naivety is again at play here, I can bolted on assure you that if you visit the clubs sponsors & Partners section of the website, you'll see a load of Partners and not one sponsor......

As I say. I don't expect an answer, but I believe the questions need asking anyway. Without Hughes, there's little or no income other than that from fans and sponsors. We currently have a handful of one and SFA of the other.

Oh..as for spreadsheets. I actually have the quins RL ones from 2009-12. A horror story they may be, but £225k was the rent in a purpose built Rugby Stadium and we had at the time fan revenues of £70k a game delivering £42k per game (£470k a year) of income to the club and covering the rent at the time.

Re: Fans consultation : Thu Sep 02, 2021 3:10 am  

Here's a question for them. Given SL 1 & 2 with 10 teams in each is more than likely happening at the end of 2022, what steps are being taken to ensure that London finish inside the cut off point next year?
We will finish 18th this year.......one better than 2015.

Re: Fans consultation : Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:27 am  

orangeman wrote:

Not at all. I don't expect answers to any of the questions, but it doesn't mean they don't need asking.

Question 2 is based around the maths of ticketing income streams as explained to me by the then clubs CEO back in 2007. 60% of the on the day ticket price is the average income stream. If you accept that A) the 350 declared at the weekend is accurate and B) that they all paid to get in, then of the supposed £7,000 taken on the gate, £4,200 was income for the club.. At current levels, we'd need 50 home games to cover the rent at Plough Lane....and that;' based on everybody being there and paying to be there last Sunday.

Question 4 is based around the number of club "partners' who have appeared on shirts over the years rather than paying sponsors. We currently don't actually produce any replica shirts in volumes any more because we don't sell any. The last shirt I bought for myself at the club was at The Hive....the ones that went unsold that day were shipped off to Africa IIRC. .my last visit to Trailfinders saw me buy my boy a shirt, because there were no adult ones available. A shirt sponsor would expect at least a few hundred of 'their logos' would be walking about in the stands etc.....but regardless...and my corporate naivety is again at play here, I can bolted on assure you that if you visit the clubs sponsors & Partners section of the website, you'll see a load of Partners and not one sponsor......

As I say. I don't expect an answer, but I believe the questions need asking anyway. Without Hughes, there's little or no income other than that from fans and sponsors. We currently have a handful of one and SFA of the other.

Oh..as for spreadsheets. I actually have the quins RL ones from 2009-12. A horror story they may be, but £225k was the rent in a purpose built Rugby Stadium and we had at the time fan revenues of £70k a game delivering £42k per game (£470k a year) of income to the club and covering the rent at the time.

A less than subtle backtrack. You couldn't just say; maybe the questions weren't appropriate, more it was an opportunity to show you have an 'assumption based' abacus and wanted to show what you believe to be are the company P&L. You don't know DH strategy and what he's happy to spend.

As for asking the questions; I won't put them on the spot with questions, even if they knew the numbers they wouldn't share them, plus make myself look naive. This isn't a cafe in a small emerging country village, its a million pound business.

Re: Fans consultation : Thu Sep 02, 2021 5:32 am  

orangeman wrote:

Here's a question for them. Given SL 1 & 2 with 10 teams in each is more than likely happening at the end of 2022, what steps are being taken to ensure that London finish inside the cut off point next year?
We will finish 18th this year.......one better than 2015.

That question albeit in a different format has been asked in the question set sent through. (another assumption based question)

Have you run out of ideas?

Re: Fans consultation : Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:24 am  

Thanks for taking this forward on our behalf WQ & any others attending, appreciated. This probably is the last chance saloon for Broncos to start to get things right.

Re: Fans consultation : Thu Sep 02, 2021 8:12 am  

wire-quin wrote:

This isn't a cafe in a small emerging country village, its a million pound business.

Though, to be fair, there are probably better run village cafes.

Re: Fans consultation : Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:59 am  

jbuzza wrote:

Though, to be fair, there are probably better run village cafes.

Maybe orangemans is run better Im sure we are about to find out

Re: Fans consultation : Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:45 pm  

wire-quin wrote:

its a million pound business.

No it isn't....not by any stretch.

Re: Fans consultation : Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:51 pm  

orangeman wrote:

No it isn't....not by any stretch.

That's probably about what it loses each year.