Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:26 pm  

TV BOY wrote:

Sorry Frank I disagree with some of that. Younger people are influenced by the actions of people they look upto and if just one took drugs just because Mick their idol did it then it's one too many. Those are the people that need educating at an early age that both drink and drugs do them no good and a person in Micks position who is found to be doing it should have the book thrown at them. Not saying after he has paid his dues he shouldn't be let back in but for now he must pay the price. Its funny you should bring the victorian opium days up because they were allowed to happen to keep the lower classes stoned and quiet. It has happend in the gettos in the states and I think they let drug and drink misuse happen in the inner cities over here for the same reason. Doesn't seem to be working at the moment does it.

Well it is an opinion like mine and you are entitled to it. When I was young I liked the Rolling Stones.We have fans on here who avidly followed the Beatles. Drug taking was rife in pop culture at that time ask your Mams and Dads.

I honestly think people take drugs because they are inquisitive. Some do some don't but it is nothing to do with pop stars or sports stars it is a choice thing.

George Best drank loads of white wine and eventually sadly it caused his premature death. He was much better known than Mick Govin but even though I am of that age group I prefer red. I do not for one minute believe people blindly foillow an individuals habits just because they admire an individual in a particular sport or a musical star.

I can't stand celery or aniseed but if Mick Jagger had extolled them 50 years ago it would not have made me want celery or aniseed.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:32 pm  

One last word before I go and curl up in bed. Drugs and Rock and Roll cultures sort of go hand in hand. Do you think that a simillar relationship between sport and drugs is healthy? Goodnight Franky baby.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:38 pm  

There, but for the grace of God, go many of us....or our kids!!

However much anyone wants to take the moral high ground, the fact remains that addiction is an illness. We aren't talking about a 'drug cheat' here - the use of cocaine was never going to improve performance. We're talking about a young lad who, for whatever reason (and none of us really know - unless we have personal experience - how the mind of an addict works) could not control this urge.
As Frank points out, there are plenty of people who have a 'need' to get pished up every weekend.....and the tales of some of the best players ever to pull on a Leigh shirt, and their pre/post match drinking habits are the stuff of legend!! The only difference is the use of this drug is considered acceptable in the eyes of the law.
It would be a shame if this ended up being the ruination of another career. Govin, on form and injury free, is a quality player.....and no one can deny his contribution to the fantastic start we made to the season. I'd like to think that some way could be found to rehabilitate Mick - get him on a programme, then get him 'paying his dues' by going round the schools and youth organisations of the area, and educating the kids to not go down the same route. And who's to say that in a couple of years time, he couldn't find a role back within the game (he'd still only be 28)? Gaz Hock has managed it, and (and you won't here this from me very often!) the 'umbles are to be congratulated on how that situation was handled.
I'm sure any of us with any compassion would sooner that, than another Terry Newton.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:46 pm  

whats more suprising is how long he has been getting away with it

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:50 pm  

If Govin asks for help with this problem then i'd hope the club would be there for him.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:51 pm  

Rhino Roy wrote:

whats more suprising is how long he has been getting away with it

And you have evidence of this accusation ?

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:20 pm  

He's been taking illegal substances, and he got caught. End of .... Govin, you t!t ....

And if any of the squad have been doing the same, then I hope they stop. Otherwise, they'll get theirs as well.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:38 pm  

Rhino Roy wrote:

whats more suprising is how long he has been getting away with it

Whino Woy can you substantiate that.............

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:39 pm  

Rhino Roy wrote:

whats more suprising is how long he has been getting away with it

Well, as a lot of people were aware of his "actions" when he was playing elsewhere, i find it surprising no one within the club "high up" were tipped the nod.

Re: Mick Govin banned for two years for doping. : Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:54 am  

Bartholemew Smythe wrote:

Whino Woy can you substantiate that.............

the 'casual drugs' thing is more widespread than you think

last season a Toulouse player was approached after their home game by a couple of Championship players (no names) asking where they could by some 'fixes' for the nighs' entertainment - there are quite well known/recognisable players

who knows how big the problem is ?