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: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:39 am  
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i ave seen the dvd and ave watched that incident a few times and for the life of me cant see wot maden had done wrong, and for wot its worth i think its a complete disgrace this thread about one player when you could point the blame at a number of players it seems a bit of a witch hunt IN MY OPINION
well i defend your right to hold and express that opinion, nowt against maden, but that particular incident had a major baring on the game, i of course was not the originator of this thread.
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: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:42 am  
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well i defend your right to hold and express that opinion, nowt against maden, but that particular incident had a major baring on the game, i of course was not the originator of this thread.
sorry you asked if anyone had seen the dvd it wasnt a dig at you about your post
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: Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:36 am  
We was too far away and didnt see what Maden did and therefore, wont pass comment. To be fair on the lads there were the two last penalty goals Batley kicked, both were unjustified, they happened right in front of us, Morty was as baffled as us, with the one that went against him. That ref is always very picky.
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: Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:18 pm  
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i ave seen the dvd and ave watched that incident a few times and for the life of me cant see wot maden had done wrong, and for wot its worth i think its a complete disgrace this thread about one player when you could point the blame at a number of players it seems a bit of a witch hunt IN MY OPINION


i totally agree, Steve wasnt to blame for all the points scored against us was he?
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Re: Fine Maden : Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:44 pm  
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Bit harsh. He got penalised for the same offence twice and I'm not sure why? In both cases I thought he was just trying to for a quick play-the-ball. First one, the sin binning he had a big Batley forward lying on top of him, the second, similar and Maden's reaction was one of disbelief.


Generally agree about what Ste was trying to do and that some of the reactions have been a bit harsh. However, it's got to be asked - if you've done something once and not just been penalised but also been sinbinned for it - why do exactly the same thing again? If a ref's being harsh on us in 1 area we need to learn to concentrate on keeping our discipline in that area, if we see something he's being lenient on we should try it a bit more. We just don't seem to be thinking at the moment.

As for the defence - we were sloppy in other areas but mainly on our right. I couldn't see where it was breaking down for most of the tries Batley scored down that side, but we know from the end result each time that it wasn't right. On that wing we had Maden with Watson inside him. In previous seasons at Leigh Maden's defence would have been more than solid enough, although generally IMHO his form hasn't been 100% this season so far. I've also seen Watson tackle above his weight before as well, and the one thing Watson should have in his favour is the experience to see what's going wrong and know how to fix it. Neither of them are young naive lads - they can both do it. But something wasn't working, and whatever it was needed to be addressed. Personally I was disappointed that no less than 4 tries had been scored down that wing before Tony Stewart was brought on and we tried to sure things up a bit - IMHO if we'd reacted quicker in addressing that 1 issue, we could have won the game.
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: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:03 pm  
I agree about the right wing the pairing seemed to change a few times which isnt going to help matters they just could'nt get it right and i still think its not the position for Watson not having a go at him either because i think he does a lot of tackling just dont think he is big enough as the wingers have been huge last couple of matches .
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: Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:17 pm  
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I agree about the right wing the pairing seemed to change a few times which isnt going to help matters they just could'nt get it right and i still think its not the position for Watson not having a go at him either because i think he does a lot of tackling just dont think he is big enough as the wingers have been huge last couple of matches .


But if the wingers are too big for him then he's got no chance of dealing with the props in the middle surely?
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: Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:53 pm  
different technique required, pace not exposed as much
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maden : Tue Mar 24, 2009 6:58 pm  
the forwards are not as fast so bulk as well as speed will make a big difference when tackling on the wing
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