Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:53 am  

Dick Jones wrote:

The amount of times Ive heard that and Ive been sat with Steve who was a director at the time and its been said its unreal and you know what we can never change their minds about it, we have to say goodbye to people like that and move on.
Since Sporting Club Leigh was set up no Director has taken a penny out of the club never.
It wont happen now, I trust each and every one of the people in charge of our club and if LISA didnt we wouldn't trust them with our members money, simple as.

In my lifetime its been Sharples, Stringer, Bell/Hart, Higgins, Healey, Nolan, entire SCL shareholders and Arthur. Must be Trevs turn soon.
Transparency allows you to laugh at them.

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:55 am  

Dick Jones wrote:

we have already since the offer was made

Then ask them when the share will be transferred and make a BIG PR event from it.

[Dick Jones]

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:59 am  

maurice wrote:

In my lifetime its been the estate agent who sold the training pitch(forget his name), Stringer, Bell/Hart, Higgins, Healey, Nolan, entire SCL shareholders and Arthur. Must be Trevs turn soon.
Transparency allows you to laugh at them.

I don't know what you are trying to say here

[Dick Jones]

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:00 am  

This is How I see it as it stands:-

At last weeks LISA meeting and at the last two fans forums ( I may add) the club directors have stated that LISA have been offered a share and a representative on the board .
This was discussed at the LISA meeting by Phil Coffey and we was asked to nominate 4 or 5 candidates to be vetted by the board(this I dont agree with btw.), then Lisa was to decide which of the candidates that had been approved they wanted to represent them.
No one at the meeting made any objections and passed comment that this was not what they wanted, even though some have since passed comment on this thread.
We are therefore.... me and the LISA chairman, going to arrange a meeting with the club to discuss this further, before we go to a vote etc.
I have put it in the next programme, that the meeting on the 21st March is an important one and I would urge all members to attend, I will also get this into the press and I will email any members I have email address for and get it annouced at the match, that we would like all members to attend the meeting.
I will also send letters to the members that are too far away to attend and offer these a postal vote and anyone else who gets in touch and lets me know they cant attend.
Basically that s all I can do.
Then if LISA decide to take it the offer and it becomes more trouble then its worth and it causes us problems, we can always change back to what we was doing before.
Although I still think LISA should have a Share Holding but we can look at ways we can have this and still remain Independant.
Instead of looking at ways it can fail, lets look at ways it can work, lets not be negative, lets be positive

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:03 am  

maurice wrote:

In my lifetime its been the estate agent who sold the training pitch(forget his name), Stringer, Bell/Hart, Higgins, Healey, Nolan, entire SCL shareholders and Arthur. Must be Trevs turn soon.
Transparency allows you to laugh at them.

It also allows you to shoot them down in full view and listening distance of lots of other people

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:24 am  

Dick Jones wrote:

I don't know what you are trying to say here

I think Mo is listing those people who the "I used to be a fan but..." brigade will name in their subsequent diatribe!

With a shareholding it will be easy to shoot down any argument by saying "well now the Fans have a shareholding so why don't you get down to LSV and see the new, Fan-friendly club in operation"!

Or something like that....

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 11:30 am  

maurice wrote:

In my lifetime its been the estate agent who sold the training pitch(forget his name), Stringer, Bell/Hart, Higgins, Healey, Nolan, entire SCL shareholders and Arthur. Must be Trevs turn soon.

Transparency allows you to laugh at them.

If you are suggesting that the person, whose name I have highlighted, ever took money out of our club, you are well out of order, and qualify as a spectacular 'bar stool know-it-all'! I was working with Chris Healey during his time as CEO at Leigh and can personally vouch that he put a small (large) fortune of his own money into our club, to prevent it from going under. His contribution was considerably larger than that made by virtually all of our directors in the past 20/30 years and his devotion to the cause cost him dearly, in more ways than one.

Chris is now living in New Zealand I believe, but I will not tolerate anyone slagging off his role in Leigh Centurions. But for him (yes, "a soccer person"!) there would have been no Centurions from a good few years ago.

[Dick Jones]

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:15 pm  

Real nice man was Chris and hope hes doing ok. he would have never done anything untoward and as Ive said none of the current SCL people have, as for before that I dont know or care.
Seems to me no matter how hard the club try, there will always be someone acusing them of something and if people think that when LISA and the Touchdown club get their shares this will stop will they need to wake up and smell the coffee, as it wont.
AS Maurice says those that say they wont come because of money taken out illedgelly by ex directors, you'll never convince these people to think any differently.
I personally aren't interested in how much we pay player one or how much the gas bill is, all I care about is seeing that the club is not going to go under and that we have a club to support.
We all need to work together to see that this happens and I feel the current set up is the best we have had for a long time and the transparancy is there, with the fans forums,and LISA meeings, questions get answered honestly by the clubs representatives there, what more can we ask for, and when the shares are issued to the |TOUCHDOWN CLUB and LISA then it will make our club stronger and more fan friendly.

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:24 pm  

To be fair Alan I don't think he was accusing anyone of anything, he was just phrasing what others think or say.

This thread just shows what an emotive issue this can be and people (this thread is littered with them) need to sit back read and digest properly what people have written and if in doubt ask them to explain it in better terms (also perhaps a little thought before posting too??) or it will turn into another name calling back biting thread.

Or in the terms of a City down the East Lancs CALM DOWN CALM DOWN LAAA

Re: LISA S very important annoucement : Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:45 pm  

FredParky wrote:

To be fair Alan I don't think he was accusing anyone of anything, he was just phrasing what others think or say.

This thread just shows what an emotive issue this can be and people (this thread is littered with them) need to sit back read and digest properly what people have written and if in doubt ask them to explain it in better terms (also perhaps a little thought before posting too??) or it will turn into another name calling back biting thread.

Or in the terms of a City down the East Lancs CALM DOWN CALM DOWN LAAA

Perhaps not, but in fully quoting the item that he did, it could have been (and was by me!) construed that way. I'm not trying to muck rake - just stating facts and defending someone who we all owe a lot to.