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Fans back by May. Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:49 pm  

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Something to look forward to for a lot of people,obviously some work to decide how to make if fair for ppl to attend.
Re: Fans back by May. Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:41 am  

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I can't quite work out how many people would be allowed in though:

"Some large events, including conferences, theatre and concert
performances and sports events.
Controlled indoor events of up to 1,000
people or 50% of a venue’s capacity, whichever is lower, will be permitted, as will
outdoor events with a capacity of either 50% or 4,000 people, whichever is lower.
The Government will also make a special provision for large, outdoor, seated
venues where crowds can be safely distributed, allowing up to 10,000 people or
25% of total seated capacity, whichever is lower. In addition, pilots will run as part
of the Events Research Programme to examine how such events can take place
without the need for social distancing using other mitigations such as testing"

So if HJ holds 15000, which perhaps is 6000 seated, 9000 standing (at a guess) does that mean it'll be initially capped to 1500 (6000 * 25%) ?

But that'd be the same as if your stadium just comprised of capacity 6000 all seated.

So I guess there might be a different calcution where a stadium comprises of mixed standing & seating - which would fall into the upto 4000, but no greater than 50% capacity, limit (and perhaps that would mean 1500 seated, 2500 standing ?)
Re: Fans back by May. Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:40 am  
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shinymcshine wrote:
I can't quite work out how many people would be allowed in though:

"Some large events, including conferences, theatre and concert
performances and sports events.
Controlled indoor events of up to 1,000
people or 50% of a venue’s capacity, whichever is lower, will be permitted, as will
outdoor events with a capacity of either 50% or 4,000 people, whichever is lower.
The Government will also make a special provision for large, outdoor, seated
venues where crowds can be safely distributed, allowing up to 10,000 people or
25% of total seated capacity, whichever is lower. In addition, pilots will run as part
of the Events Research Programme to examine how such events can take place
without the need for social distancing using other mitigations such as testing"

So if HJ holds 15000, which perhaps is 6000 seated, 9000 standing (at a guess) does that mean it'll be initially capped to 1500 (6000 * 25%) ?

But that'd be the same as if your stadium just comprised of capacity 6000 all seated.

So I guess there might be a different calcution where a stadium comprises of mixed standing & seating - which would fall into the upto 4000, but no greater than 50% capacity, limit (and perhaps that would mean 1500 seated, 2500 standing ?)


they've got a tricky line to tread, they will obviously want to allow as many members in, as a thank you, as priority, perhaps, but at the same time they will desperately want some POTG customers in for cash flow.
Re: Fans back by May. Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:01 am  
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At this rate we might have a full house to watch us bottle another GF!

Btw that's a joke Captain Hook.
Re: Fans back by May. Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:35 pm  

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Or, if we happen to win the GF and seeing Lord Tony Smith morph in to Lord Steve Price !
Btw that’s a joke LTS.
Re: Fans back by May. Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:14 pm  

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I wonder if they’d look at each stand’a capacity individually as managing seated fans and standing fans is a very different game.
Re: Fans back by May. Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:44 pm  

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Fantastic Mr Catpiss wrote:
they've got a tricky line to tread, they will obviously want to allow as many members in, as a thank you, as priority, perhaps, but at the same time they will desperately want some POTG customers in for cash flow.


I'm assuming it will be season ticket holders only (and only a percentage of those) until things are opened up completely. The club have had their money up front so can't prioritise anyone else who hasn't payed yet. Agree though, it won't help cashflow until the grounds can be unrestricted again.
Re: Fans back by May. Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:51 pm  

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Am I correct in thinking that after the planned end of social distancing regulations on 21st of June we could sell the ground out if we wanted to?
'I've done things i'm not proud of. And the things i am proud of,.......well they're disgusting'
Re: Fans back by May. Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:53 pm  
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Moe syslak wrote:
Am I correct in thinking that after the planned end of social distancing regulations on 21st of June we could sell the ground out if we wanted to?

Correct. The 21st June is life as normal. I think it's optimistic but if the vaccine rollout continues at this pace then it can be achievable.
Re: Fans back by May. Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:37 pm  

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Probably correct....

The plan has the following paragraphs:-

Large events
132. DCMS and the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy have been
working with representatives from industry and civil society to explore when and how
events with larger crowd sizes, less social distancing or in settings where
transmission is more likely (i.e. indoors), will be able to return safely. This includes
sports events, music festivals and large weddings and conferences.
133. Over the spring the Government will run a scientific Events Research Programme.
This will include a series of pilots using enhanced testing approaches and other
measures to run events with larger crowd sizes and reduced social distancing to
evaluate the outcomes. The pilots will start in April.
134. The Government will bring the findings from across different sectors and different
settings to determine a consistent approach to lifting restrictions on these events.
Depending on the outcome of this work, the Government hopes to be able to lift
restrictions on these events and sectors as part of Step 4.

So... The final decision on capacity depends on that Events Research Programme.
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