Brian Bevan/Kevin Penny : Fri Feb 20, 2009 7:48 pm  

There are several similarities between these two players.

Both were/are very fast wingers, very elusive and having excellent balance with ball in hand.

Defence wasn't/isn't the strong point of either although I think Penny is improving all the time. BB's defence was awful, his only contribution was to chase (and usually catch) breakaway runners.
When a tackle on an opponent was called for he would stand and watch, usually with hands on hips.

If in danger of being tackled BB very often just stepped into touch, Ive seen him do that many times.

BB was on the field for one reason and one reason only, his speed. He was a try-scoring machine.

One thing they both need/needed was a quality centre to make the intial space, as does any good wing.

I can not remember BB ever being dropped from the team.

For these reasons I think dropping Penny is very poor coaching.

If he is dropped for his defence, well there are other playes in the team equally culpable, why victimise Penny ? Rather than individuals being blamed surely it is the team's defencive strategy that is suspect ?

If he is dropped for lack of tries, as I said earlier, every good winger needs a good centre. KP doesn't have a good centre. He will never score tries without being given the ball (admitted he fluffed one last game).

Apart from not having a half decent centre, there doesn't seem to be any room in the game plan (?) for other players to kick to his wing.

There is one other possible reason for dropping him. Scapegoat.

Whatever the reason it is no way to bring on a talented youngster. I he were playing for Leeds I am certain he would develop into a world-beater.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:36 pm  

I understand your thinking but (even though I never had the privilege of seeing BB - my uncle did) I can't believe that KP is anywhere in the same league as Bevan.

Re: Brian Bevan/Kevin Penny : Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:44 pm  

Rosswire wrote:

There are several similarities between these two players.

Both were/are very fast wingers, very elusive and having excellent balance with ball in hand.

Defence wasn't/isn't the strong point of either although I think Penny is improving all the time. BB's defence was awful, his only contribution was to chase (and usually catch) breakaway runners.
When a tackle on an opponent was called for he would stand and watch, usually with hands on hips.

If in danger of being tackled BB very often just stepped into touch, Ive seen him do that many times.

BB was on the field for one reason and one reason only, his speed. He was a try-scoring machine.

One thing they both need/needed was a quality centre to make the intial space, as does any good wing.

I can not remember BB ever being dropped from the team.

For these reasons I think dropping Penny is very poor coaching.

If he is dropped for his defence, well there are other playes in the team equally culpable, why victimise Penny ? Rather than individuals being blamed surely it is the team's defencive strategy that is suspect ?

If he is dropped for lack of tries, as I said earlier, every good winger needs a good centre. KP doesn't have a good centre. He will never score tries without being given the ball (admitted he fluffed one last game).

Apart from not having a half decent centre, there doesn't seem to be any room in the game plan (?) for other players to kick to his wing.

There is one other possible reason for dropping him. Scapegoat.

Whatever the reason it is no way to bring on a talented youngster. I he were playing for Leeds I am certain he would develop into a world-beater.

I'm sorry .

YOU'RE Deranged

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:53 pm  

agreed...

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:23 pm  

Great site lads.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:24 pm  

1878 wrote:

Great site lads.

I share your pain.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 11:50 pm  

The great thing about the Warrington team these days as opposed to Bevans day is that we have a squad where we can field two equally good thirteens, so no player is guaranteed his place. If you don't perform Lowes has shown he is willing to wield the axe and not scared of big reputations.

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:22 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

The great thing about the Warrington team these days as opposed to Bevans day is that we have a squad where we can field two equally good thirteens, so no player is guaranteed his place. If you don't perform Lowes has shown he is willing to wield the axe and not scared of big reputations.

Not one of your better efforts - the tongue is slowly slipping from the cheek.

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:10 am  

Bevan looked good due to quality half backs and a quality centre inside him and played in a time when players' physiques mostly determined their position. As opposed to lining up opposite creatine-filled monsters like Peter Fox and Francis Meli, Bevan was lining up against mostly skinny figures who were on the wing due to offering little to the team.

: Sat Feb 21, 2009 1:17 am  

'Hitman' Norvern Soul wrote:

Bevan looked good due to quality half backs and a quality centre inside him and played in a time when players' physiques mostly determined their position. As opposed to lining up opposite creatine-filled monsters like Peter Fox and Francis Meli, Bevan was lining up against mostly skinny figures who were on the wing due to offering little to the team.

This years most ill-informed quotes.

Translated - all props had pot bellies, scrum halves were little whippets and wingers were put on the wing because they were crap and spent all the game rolling their caps. THAT'S why Brian Bevan scored so many tries