Re: Widdop injured : Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:45 pm  

If we are going to put the strongest available starting 13 out then I think it will be Ratchford to the halves in order to slot Mamo in at FB. Patton may get a spot on the bench to give cover in the backs and to spell Daz Clark.

Yes, Mamo is weak under the high ball but at least he offers some attacking threat and Ratchford, whilst not always successful, will at least try things from half unlike Patton who offers nothing.

Re: Widdop injured : Sun Jan 12, 2020 10:17 pm  

St Helens Wolf wrote:

If we are going to put the strongest available starting 13 out then I think it will be Ratchford to the halves in order to slot Mamo in at FB. Patton may get a spot on the bench to give cover in the backs and to spell Daz Clark.

Yes, Mamo is weak under the high ball but at least he offers some attacking threat and Ratchford, whilst not always successful, will at least try things from half unlike Patton who offers nothing.

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Re: Widdop injured : Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:06 pm  

I wonder if Widdop is house sharing with Gary Wheeler ?

Re: Widdop injured : Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:15 pm  

I think with Patton now we should remember he's the number 3 halfback. We signed two blue chip NRL halfbacks to be the starters so the debate isn't really about is Patton good enough to be first choice, it's what he offers us as a 3rd halfback.

And on those terms, I'm pretty happy with having Patton there. Look at other teams' rosters and who they would have as their 3rd halfback. Usually it's a young lad who is unproven, or a utility type player or someone they would shove out of position eg a fullback or hooker or loose forward. It's not that common to have a specialist halfback with 100 games experience who is an understudy ready to come in. I'd guess that Patton is better than most team's 3rd halfback option.

Whilst it might be more exciting to have a young unproven lad because then you think, well we might hit the jackpot if this guy turns out to be special, most of the time they turn out to be duds and then you have a guy who is out of his depth and a liability. For me the most important quality of a back up is just to be capable and limit mistakes. He doesn't need to be a game breaker, just don't stink the joint out, and then its important that some other senior player steps up in Widdop's absence and not have us all waiting for Patton to be Widdop.

I might have got frustrated with Patton when thinking about whether he's going to be the long term heir to Briers, because I don't think he offers much of an x factor, but compared to other young halfbacks, he's not BAD, he doesn't stink the joint out.

The ideal 3rd halfback would be someone like Tyrone Roberts. The reason people gave him stick was because he took up a quota spot and was on a big salary and was expected to be a game breaker and he wasn't. But he didn't make many mistakes, he was capable in a conservative game plan, moved the ball around ok, kicked ok (not great). If you said Roberts was English and on a limited salary and would stay around as back up halfback, I would have taken that. Patton is about the same level of player as Roberts so I'll take that.

Re: Widdop injured : Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:29 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

The ideal 3rd halfback would be someone like Tyrone Roberts.

The ideal third halfback for any club is someone from it's academy who believes they are better than the first team two and desperate to take their place off them.

Re: Widdop injured : Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:00 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

The ideal third halfback for any club is someone from it's academy who believes they are better than the first team two and desperate to take their place off them.

In the case of The Wire that would be young Riley Dean. Unfortunately he is set to miss the first 6 games due to injury.

Re: Widdop injured : Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:54 pm  

Saddened! wrote:

The ideal third halfback for any club is someone from it's academy who believes they are better than the first team two and desperate to take their place off them.

Well said sir especially when we consider the stick Patton took last year. No good having players on top money & in a comfort zone when there is no one to snap at their heels.

Re: Widdop injured : Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:53 pm  

sally cinnamon wrote:

Patton is about the same level of player as Roberts so I'll take that.

Agreed with most of your post except this (if you are being serious). I do not believe Patton is anywhere near the standard of Roberts. I just cannot imagine in this life-time that Patton would get a single NRL half back contract, nevermind multiple contracts.

Re: Widdop injured : Mon Jan 13, 2020 11:44 pm  

Winslade's Offload wrote:

I wonder if Widdop is house sharing with Gary Wheeler ?

I hope it’s a bungalow... wouldn’t trust either of these 2 negotiating the stairs on a daily basis!

Re: Widdop injured : Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:22 am  

scottty wrote:

I hope it’s a bungalow... wouldn’t trust either of these 2 negotiating the stairs on a daily basis!

Wheeler would get an injury, hopping onto Thora Hurd's stairlift