Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Thu May 21, 2009 4:32 pm  

mark_m wrote:

Are you going to acknowledge that the key moment in the game against Hull was the try saving tackle he made and stop looking at the negatives all the time?

No player is perfect.

I don`t look for negatives in us as you put it, i`m just making the point that if Chris Bridge is to become our right centre then that isn`t an improvement on Martin Gleeson which isn`t really strengthening the team. Chris Bridge is a talented player but a bit of an enigma, he is classy when he turns it on but he seems a bit of a mood player just like with that poor effort on Danny Tickle where even though Lee Briers was at fault Chris Bridge got himself into a great position to make the tackle but it was a lazy, feeble attempt.

Yes he made a great tackle like you mention and i acknowledge that but its pointless to make a great tackle one minute and then a can`t be bothered effort the next which ends up costing your side 6pts, i`m not here to put him down, i`m just saying that in my opinion he isn`t an improvement on Martin Gleeson which was my overall point earlier.

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Thu May 21, 2009 4:46 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

I don`t look for negatives in us as you put it, i`m just making the point that if Chris Bridge is to become our right centre then that isn`t an improvement on Martin Gleeson which isn`t really strengthening the team. Chris Bridge is a talented player but a bit of an enigma, he is classy when he turns it on but he seems a bit of a mood player just like with that poor effort on Danny Tickle where even though Lee Briers was at fault Chris Bridge got himself into a great position to make the tackle but it was a lazy, feeble attempt.

Yes he made a great tackle like you mention and i acknowledge that but its pointless to make a great tackle one minute and then a can`t be bothered effort the next which ends up costing your side 6pts, i`m not here to put him down, i`m just saying that in my opinion he isn`t an improvement on Martin Gleeson which was my overall point earlier.

You need to look at a balanced view and in my opinion his positives outweigh his negatives. There are precious few game-breakers in the game and players like him should be celebrated instead of the mistakes he makes being constantly put in the spotlight.

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Thu May 21, 2009 5:32 pm  

mark_m wrote:

You need to look at a balanced view and in my opinion his positives outweigh his negatives. There are precious few game-breakers in the game and players like him should be celebrated instead of the mistakes he makes being constantly put in the spotlight.

Exactly.

Last year, Rob said he was made of biscuit. Now, he's moved onto picking up on any slight imperfection on his part because the injuries have gone away. RL is a game where you're likely to make mistakes, it comes with the territory, he's made one, wow. The fact that Rob_Wire has taken himself away from here for a few days, gone through the archives, pinpointed a mistake and come back on here to use as proof just staggers me, well it doesn't really as it's Rob, but where you fall down Rob is that you claim that I think he's perfect, yet choose to ignore than i'm critical of him on here, like the rest when he plays badly.

Honestly Rob, you need to get out more mate.

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Thu May 21, 2009 5:51 pm  

JWP wrote:

Exactly.The fact that Rob_Wire has taken himself away from here for a few days, gone through the archives, pinpointed a mistake and come back on here to use as proof just staggers me, well it doesn't really as it's Rob,

The reason i havn`t posted since my last post on the subject is simply because my laptop has been away at Sony having something repaired under warranty, not that i have to justify anything to anyone on here, ive got far better things to do than troll through games looking for Chris Bridge mistakes. The Hull KR game i mentioned previously was one i had on sky and i watched again recently while my laptop was away being repaired hence why i pointed out him throwing the ball behind Hicks in that game.

You said previosuly that Chris Bridge had never threw a ball behind Chris Hicks or Matt King, it seems your not big enough to put your hands up when you get things wrong, just accept you were wrong and move on.

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Thu May 21, 2009 5:58 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

The reason i havn`t posted since my last post on the subject is simply because my laptop has been away at Sony having something repaired under warranty, not that i have to justify anything to anyone on here, ive got far better things to do than troll through games looking for Chris Bridge mistakes. The Hull KR game i mentioned previously was one i had on sky+ and watched again recently while my laptop was away being repaired hence why i pointed out him throwing the ball behind Hicks in that game.

You said previosuly that Chris Bridge had never threw a ball behind Chris Hicks or Matt King, it seems your not big enough to accept it when you get things wrong, just accept you were wrong and move on.

I'm big enough to accept anything Rob, you're the one on here who's a nightmare for exactly what you say I do, he passed a ball badly once, Wow. I apologise for doubting that he did. Check page three, I've assessed Bridge this year Rob, FAIRLY, quite comfortably, praised him & criticised him in equal measure, yet you still churn out the party line that I 'think he's Mr.Perfect'. That's what I find bonkers.

All you do Rob is pinpoint negatives, rather than concentrating on the vast amount of positives, I've seen Martin Gleeson throw heaps of passes into touch, heaps. So by your rationale, with Bridge only doing it once he must be miles better than him, miles better. Centres are judged on productivity, be it tries, assists & tackles, try savers like. I'm saying that in his two or three performances there, he's scored tries, his winger has got-tricks & we've won, conceding few points, that's pretty good from where i'm sat Rob. Thing is with you, you only do it with certain individuals, because it fits around your agenda.

Honestly mate, you're the only person I know who could be stiffing Kelly Brook and look gutted because you'd forget to tape Wolrd In Action.

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Thu May 21, 2009 9:27 pm  

Rob Wire wrote:

I don`t look for negatives in us as you put it, i`m just making the point that if Chris Bridge is to become our right centre then that isn`t an improvement on Martin Gleeson which isn`t really strengthening the team. Chris Bridge is a talented player but a bit of an enigma, he is classy when he turns it on but he seems a bit of a mood player just like with that poor effort on Danny Tickle where even though Lee Briers was at fault Chris Bridge got himself into a great position to make the tackle but it was a lazy, feeble attempt.

Yes he made a great tackle like you mention and i acknowledge that but its pointless to make a great tackle one minute and then a can`t be bothered effort the next which ends up costing your side 6pts, i`m not here to put him down, i`m just saying that in my opinion he isn`t an improvement on Martin Gleeson which was my overall point earlier.

Just a quick point in terms of comparisons to Gleeson, their defence % success is identical (Bridge 2009 v Gleeson 2008), their error count is very similar, and Bridge has 7 assists in 10 games this year, compared to Gleeson's 8 in 26 last year.

I think it is fair to assume that Bridge has plenty of improvement in him yet, whereas Gleeson had probably reached his peak.

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Fri May 22, 2009 12:12 am  

JWP wrote:

Honestly mate, you're the only person I know who could be stiffing Kelly Brook and look gutted because you'd forget to tape Wolrd In Action.

I did something similar once. Took a nice girl from Worsley home only to be watching Question Time over her shoulder. Damn Peter Hitchens and his no nonsence debating style.

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Fri May 22, 2009 12:14 am  

Dave T wrote:

Just a quick point in terms of comparisons to Gleeson, their defence % success is identical (Bridge 2009 v Gleeson 2008), their error count is very similar, and Bridge has 7 assists in 10 games this year, compared to Gleeson's 8 in 26 last year.

I think it is fair to assume that Bridge has plenty of improvement in him yet, whereas Gleeson had probably reached his peak.

Love the belief in Bridge (I'm a Bridge fan) but I don't think we will ever see him trotting out in the GB jersey at centre. Do you?

: Fri May 22, 2009 12:15 am  

simple. sign myler.

Re: So where do we need to strengthen for the future ? : Fri May 22, 2009 8:31 am  

Wires71 wrote:

Love the belief in Bridge (I'm a Bridge fan) but I don't think we will ever see him trotting out in the GB jersey at centre. Do you?

It isn't out of the question. It is early days yet but the competition isn't blessed with a huge amount of centre talent.

He did play as an England schoolboy international at centre.