Re: Rumours 2 : Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:55 pm  

fez1 wrote:

Don't honestly expect much from Kibula. (At least this season).
Wigan let him go for a reason.
And Wire don't have a great record of developing players.
Matty Russell's failings weren't ironed out and he was let go by Wigan.

They signed Burgess and they don't have the clout since the attendance drop off during Sean Wane's period. I'd say that was much of the reason.

Re: Rumours 2 : Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:26 pm  

Kibula isn’t as good as pat Moran and you will find that out this season imo . I watch a lot of championship rugby and he didn’t do much for Dewsbury or Swinton while Moran was stand out for Sheffield also the lad you had on loan at Widnes Ellis robson was stand out for them week in week out , I wouldn’t be surprised to see him break though this year rather than kibula

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:50 am  

Seems like its shaping up to be a familiar year on the recruitment front. We can see clear weaknesses in certain positions. We get linked with players, then don't sign them. As the off season goes on, the calibre of players we get linked with drops.

In the end we will probably sign somebody just because we have to, likely a borderline starter in the NRL whose club wants to move them on and they don't have many other options.

When you're a club somewhere in the range of 4th to 5th best in the competition, and you have aspirations to be 1st, the only way to break in to that is to make elite signings that make those above you nervous.

If you just pad the squad with a couple of fillers, you're focusing on consolidating 4th - 5th, not chasing down the pack above you.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:50 am  

Winslade's Offload wrote:

We then have Philbin and BMM as impact props.

BMM isn't a prop.

currently in the squad we have two top class SL Props and a decent young up and coming prop in Philbin off the bench. we then have a slack handful of reserve grade standard props. NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Even with Hill and Cooper on the field we aren't the sort of pack that's going to steam roll over the opposition down field, set a platform and have a set attacking play on the 4th or 5th.

We're a middle weight, mobile, athletic pack that all have a decent set of hands. We need two more Cooper esque props with a good engine that can come on and run tight lines with tip ons and offloads.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 8:12 am  

Saintflyer13 wrote:

Kibula isn’t as good as pat Moran and you will find that out this season imo . I watch a lot of championship rugby and he didn’t do much for Dewsbury or Swinton while Moran was stand out for Sheffield also the lad you had on loan at Widnes Ellis robson was stand out for them week in week out , I wouldn’t be surprised to see him break though this year rather than kibula

What is your view on Eribe Doro?

He had a quiet season with our Academy last season owing to injuries and disciplinary reasons, but if given a chance in the 1st team, he could claim a prop substitute role in 2020.

I think he is much better than Kibula.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:09 am  

Hill was shown off to his best playing for GB ,as a ball playing prop ,& not a five drive steam roller. If Price can bring in a more expansive game, where players back up the ball carrier & are ready for a cheeky pass, we could have a more entertaining & effective team instead of the recent constipated on field product.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:48 am  

ninearches wrote:

Hill was shown off to his best playing for GB ,as a ball playing prop ,& not a five drive steam roller. If Price can bring in a more expansive game, where players back up the ball carrier & are ready for a cheeky pass, we could have a more entertaining & effective team instead of the recent constipated on field product.

100% spot on mate

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:10 am  

ninearches wrote:

Hill was shown off to his best playing for GB ,as a ball playing prop ,& not a five drive steam roller. If Price can bring in a more expansive game, where players back up the ball carrier & are ready for a cheeky pass, we could have a more entertaining & effective team instead of the recent constipated on field product.

And that is why last season became such a damp squib, and whoever we sign unless SP changes style of play we will have a similar season.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:21 am  

Hill and Cooper were off loading a lot more at the beginning of last season and said in an interview this was part of their regular training.
It definitely wasn't how they were playing by mid season for whatever reason SP decided to change what seemed to be working.

Re: Rumours 2 : Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:25 am  

Squad numbers to be released later today, disappointing as it seems as though we have failed in our attempts to bring in this ‘enforcement type’ front rower.