Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 4:27 pm  

matt_wire wrote:

Just a thought, but are we a bit naiive? Wigan did so much lying on and slowing down and we never seemed to return the favour? We don't seem to match them in that kind of department, do we need a bit more guile? Saints fans saying they struggled to match Wigan in that department last week too. The thing that irks me though, is when we do try that kind of thing, we just get penalised.

Yes - there's certainly some merit in that.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 5:16 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

Without Mikaele, Bullock, Harrison and Dudson, we were rather short of grunt, and Wigan controlled the ruck. All I wanted before this game started was for us to keep in the contest, which we did (same against Cats, but we took he points) given tough circumstances. If we get closer on the yardage front in the games to come with the top sides, then we increase our chances of winning those games.

I'm not a fan of rotating wingers, and would have rather seen a young forward on the bench to show DP what they had. The effort from the 17 was good enough for me, and overall I'm not really disappointed as this loss doesn't define our season.

You could very well argue that Wigan without Bateman, Cooper, Smithies and Singleton for 75 minutes were without more “grunt” than Warrington were.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:03 pm  

jonh wrote:

You could very well argue that Wigan without Bateman, Cooper, Smithies and Singleton for 75 minutes were without more “grunt” than Warrington were.

Yes, you could, as I was looking from our point of view. We had two backs a hooker and a rookie forward on the bench, which was the weakest, by a long way, that we've had all season. There's bigger games to come, enjoy the bragging rights from last night.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:08 pm  

MorePlaymakersNeeded wrote:

Yes, you could, as I was looking from our point of view. We had two backs a hooker and a rookie forward on the bench, which was the weakest, by a long way, that we've had all season. There's bigger games to come, enjoy the bragging rights from last night.

I appreciate you are saying it is from your point of view I’m just pointing out Wigan had more missing which probably means all things being equal they dominate that forward battle even more.

Maybe a case of investing too much in too few players? Maybe further evidenced by the thrashing the reserves took at the hands of their Wigan counterparts today.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 6:48 pm  

jonh wrote:

I appreciate you are saying it is from your point of view I’m just pointing out Wigan had more missing which probably means all things being equal they dominate that forward battle even more.

Maybe a case of investing too much in too few players? Maybe further evidenced by the thrashing the reserves took at the hands of their Wigan counterparts today.

At the start of the season, my thoughts were we had too many props and were light in cover for the second row and the outside backs.

Turns out that we end up with a shortage of props that gave us the issues last night. Again, I agree with you on squad depth, it would appear that Wigan have more than we do.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 7:09 pm  

I’m not that worried about last night. We were always going to struggle to make ground with 1 prop and an impact prop. I think this experience of keeping in the game despit so little ball and territory is something that none of our teams in recent memory would have done. Panic would have set in and we would have been hammered.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:47 pm  

jonh wrote:

I appreciate you are saying it is from your point of view I’m just pointing out Wigan had more missing which probably means all things being equal they dominate that forward battle even more.

Maybe a case of investing too much in too few players? Maybe further evidenced by the thrashing the reserves took at the hands of their Wigan counterparts today.

Honestly Jonh, nobody gives a $h!t about Wigan on here. We know how great you are in your rental stadium and we are quite sure you will always be fabulous.

Probably better just sticking to your own forum though, most on here just think you are bunch of inbreds....

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:58 pm  

matt_wire wrote:

Heat of the moment post I'm afraid. Watched it back again and we weren't that far off the mark, did well to keep them to seven points despite being so short in troops and everything, and but for a few naff referee calls we weren't that far away. Get our bigger lads back and we'll hopefully be able to create better platforms for Williams. (I still don't rate drinkwater).

It's not ideal but if we're going to list last night was the mannor I would prefere to leave a game thinking 100% effort and we could have still won the game in the last minute. Not like previous seasons thinking poor effort poor commitment boring rugby and knowing no real improment imminent.

Powell's task it to find a way to neutralise opposition slowing us down at the ptb.

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:32 pm  

Dita's Slot Meter wrote:

Honestly Jonh, nobody gives a $h!t about Wigan on here. We know how great you are in your rental stadium and we are quite sure you will always be fabulous.

Probably better just sticking to your own forum though, most on here just think you are bunch of inbreds....

Why do you need to be so rude and abusive to folks opinion or is it just attention seeking...

Re: Tonight’s game v Wigan : Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:39 pm  

I agreed with the gist of what both coaches said in their after match interviews:
Powell saying that Wigan gave Wire a lesson in how to play in wet conditions.
Peet saying that Wigan's game plan was to play off the back of Harry Smith's kicking game, which was very good, and the whole team was committed to chasing & defending on that basis.

Perhaps the occasion, and expectation of the big crowd, got to the Wire players a little and they overplayed and forced a few too many passes, which lead to mistakes, which suited Wigan who were happy to be very conservative with the ball and try to grind out a low scored win, which they did.