Re: Powell OUT : Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:12 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

Not for me. They are elite professional sportsmen they shouldn’t be out there drinking in the middle of a season let alone when current performances and results have been embarrassing. And when, there’s so much scrutiny currently on the board as there is now, which Lomax who is pretty active on social media will be aware, it’s a silly move from him to go along with this. It gives a general impression that ‘we’re not bothered’ and kind of rubs peoples faces in it.

I have heard some twaddle in my time. Nothing wrong with going to a leaving do & it certainly doesn't give me the impression that "we're not bothered". Are you seriously suggesting that rugby players ought not to socialise? Poor old Wakefield ... you'd have 'em locked up between games. Get a grip of yourself.

Re: Powell OUT : Wed Jul 05, 2023 1:28 pm  

Smiffy27 wrote:

I have heard some twaddle in my time. Nothing wrong with going to a leaving do & it certainly doesn't give me the impression that "we're not bothered". Are you seriously suggesting that rugby players ought not to socialise? Poor old Wakefield ... you'd have 'em locked up between games. Get a grip of yourself.

There was no leaving do. Jason Clark left the club in September at the end of the season. You're spot on, I don't think they should be getting leathered 24 hours after a big defeat. Obviously you do which doesn't surprise me.The club could get relegated and you'd still think we've had a good season.

Re: Powell OUT : Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:08 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

There was no leaving do. Jason Clark left the club in September at the end of the season. You're spot on, I don't think they should be getting leathered 24 hours after a big defeat. Obviously you do which doesn't surprise me.The club could get relegated and you'd still think we've had a good season.

It was a leaving do as it was Jason Clark returning to Australia, he was over from France visiting people ahead of returning back to Aus and the evening had been put on especially for that, I was told about it a few weeks ago. His kids were there and mingling with friends they had made over their time in Warrington. No one I saw was leathered.

I understand how you feel about it - and that's fine - just clarifying some points.

Re: Powell OUT : Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:29 pm  

Lord Tony Smith wrote:

There was no leaving do. Jason Clark left the club in September at the end of the season. You're spot on, I don't think they should be getting leathered 24 hours after a big defeat. Obviously you do which doesn't surprise me.The club could get relegated and you'd still think we've had a good season.

You sometimes give me the impression that you don't actually like rugby players particularly Wire players & this is a bit strange for a fan. Everyone has a right to socialise in a reasonable way with their work mates ... why should a sportsman be any different? Using the word "leathered" is very unfair and unnecessary.

Re: Powell OUT : Wed Jul 05, 2023 2:52 pm  

I don't think having a few scoops the day after a loss is going to affect this week's result in a negative way . Maybe the air has been cleared & a professional performance this week will be the result.
If we are going to beat Saints ,or at least make a game of it , the most important aspects will be game plan ,attitude ,application & effort.

Re: Powell OUT : Wed Jul 05, 2023 10:12 pm  

Players being seen out drinking is one of those things like when people analyse the coach's comments after a game.

Guaranteed to be an issue that winds fans up when we are losing, nobody cares if we are winning.

Re: Powell OUT : Thu Jul 06, 2023 6:47 am  

Back to the topic… My big concern is that we are yet again seeing a lack of confidence in our players, reflected in poor decision making, dropped balls etc etc. Last season this was put down to the number of players at the end of their contract. The coach now has a team largely made up of players he wanted and we are seeing the same problem. I also look at the form of eg Josh Charnley who looked a broken man when with us, totally lacking in self confidence (indeed I criticised him for lacking the faith to back himself on many occasions) who now looks like the player we signed. The coach must play a significant part in setting the tone for the team and I have significant fears that Powell is not the man to do this. I appreciate that a good performance on Friday could lead to me being ridiculed but I am now in the “Powell Out!” camp.
(Holbrook before you ask!)

Re: Powell OUT : Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:20 am  

Captain Hook wrote:

Back to the topic… My big concern is that we are yet again seeing a lack of confidence in our players, reflected in poor decision making, dropped balls etc etc. Last season this was put down to the number of players at the end of their contract. The coach now has a team largely made up of players he wanted and we are seeing the same problem. I also look at the form of eg Josh Charnley who looked a broken man when with us, totally lacking in self confidence (indeed I criticised him for lacking the faith to back himself on many occasions) who now looks like the player we signed. The coach must play a significant part in setting the tone for the team and I have significant fears that Powell is not the man to do this. I appreciate that a good performance on Friday could lead to me being ridiculed but I am now in the “Powell Out!” camp.
(Holbrook before you ask!)

I have a sneaky feeling you are correct. I'm not calling for a sacking as this would be too easy on Fitzy and the board. They, like us, can suffer and watch the entire poop show play out and be fully intertwined with the outcome. They can witness the net result of all the decisions they have collectively taken over the last few years and how they run the train set. Then hopefully they will reflect on their decisions and desire. It will also give Powell an opportunity to turn matters round and prove all us doubters wrong.

Re: Powell OUT : Thu Jul 06, 2023 1:29 pm  

Captain Hook wrote:

Back to the topic… My big concern is that we are yet again seeing a lack of confidence in our players, reflected in poor decision making, dropped balls etc etc. Last season this was put down to the number of players at the end of their contract. The coach now has a team largely made up of players he wanted and we are seeing the same problem. I also look at the form of eg Josh Charnley who looked a broken man when with us, totally lacking in self confidence (indeed I criticised him for lacking the faith to back himself on many occasions) who now looks like the player we signed

Charnley made a comment in the week that Tomkins persuaded him not to quit the game at the end of last season, such was his disillusionment with how things went at Wires.

That for me is pretty damning when you now look at his form.

Mulhearn is another one who looked like 1982 Bruche U16s when he was here and now looks like 1982 Kangaroos.

Re: Powell OUT : Thu Jul 06, 2023 3:22 pm  

i have defended him as much as i can... almost had enough now.

Feels a bit like his ship is starting to sink... matter of time now until the trigger is pulled.