: Thu Apr 23, 2009 10:17 pm  

Everyone who wants Orford have forgot about when he used us to bump up his last contract i gather?

Re: Richie Myler or Matt Orford : Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:01 am  

Wires71 wrote:

So much for welcoming newcomers (or Johnny Come Latelys using Hitman's vernacular)

You remembered me. What a high honour indeed.

Anyhow, to be serious for a moment, it depends on Smith's long-term plan. If, for instance, he sees a halfback at 18 years of age in the Academy/reserves that he thinks could be the tallisman of the club for a decade, but isn't quite ready yet, he would probably bring in someone Orford-esque, in the theory that he could train closely with this kid and his experience would rub off on him,making him a better player when he is ready. There's no point bringing in a 19 year old from another club if you want one already here to step up.

On the other hand, if there isn't anyone here that Smith sees as taking on the long term tallisman role, then he would probably bring in someone to do that. Maybe not Myler, but someone of that mould; young, talented and eager to make a mark on the game/club.*

*Luke Robinson's quotations when leaving Wigan spring to mind there, for some reason.

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 6:30 am  

Myler, would be a quarter of the cost of Orford.

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:14 am  

Myler as I have never seen Orford play

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:37 am  

Some Manly fans have set up a facebook group asking for Monas to be swapped with Orford immediately, based upon his poor form this season.

An ageing over rated Aussie...... just what we need.

Re: Richie Myler or Matt Orford : Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:39 am  

'Hitman' Norvern Soul wrote:

You remembered me. What a high honour indeed.

Anyhow, to be serious for a moment, it depends on Smith's long-term plan. If, for instance, he sees a halfback at 18 years of age in the Academy/reserves that he thinks could be the tallisman of the club for a decade, but isn't quite ready yet, he would probably bring in someone Orford-esque, in the theory that he could train closely with this kid and his experience would rub off on him,making him a better player when he is ready. There's no point bringing in a 19 year old from another club if you want one already here to step up.

On the other hand, if there isn't anyone here that Smith sees as taking on the long term tallisman role, then he would probably bring in someone to do that. Maybe not Myler, but someone of that mould; young, talented and eager to make a mark on the game/club.*

*Luke Robinson's quotations when leaving Wigan spring to mind there, for some reason.

Agreed with that, if we have any talent of our own at halfback in the age range of 15-17 then get Orford over for a couple of years, raise the standards of the first team, start feeding the young lad in and give him game time where he doesn't have to be a dominant partner, then let him hit the ground running when Orford leaves.

If the cupboard is bare then importing a younger upcoming player from outside who is hungry for success will be a smarter move.

BUT - the danger with Myler is that if he is as good as people think he is, he may not necessarily be a much longer term option than Orford, unless Warrington start winning things pronto. Lets say Myler signs a 3 year deal with us, becomes Englands starting halfback but we don't win any trophies. Half way into his second season we start hearing that he wants to join a club which will further his ambitions and he is released with the line "We only want players who are committed to the club....."

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:45 am  

Both quality players.

Orford would be best in the short term. Simply stay for 2/3years, play a big part in getting Wire to where they want to be, pick up his pay cheque then leave.

Myler on the other hand wont have as big of an impact, but his stay could be long term. A bit like Sean Long of Saints. Long isnt as good as Orford but Long has been at Saints most of his career and has played a big part to where they are now.

Re: Richie Myler or Matt Orford : Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:57 am  

sally cinnamon wrote:

BUT - the danger with Myler is that if he is as good as people think he is, he may not necessarily be a much longer term option than Orford, unless Warrington start winning things pronto. Lets say Myler signs a 3 year deal with us, becomes Englands starting halfback but we don't win any trophies. Half way into his second season we start hearing that he wants to join a club which will further his ambitions and he is released with the line "We only want players who are committed to the club....."

Yeh but that's a daft argument. In order for us to step a level above where we have been in the past few years, we are going to have to sign young players with success ahead of them instead of behind them. If we say, no we'd best not do that in case they decide to leave, we'll never get anywhere!

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:45 pm  

non of this will matter coz if we dont snatch myler up soon wigan will get him.

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:50 pm  

They've got Super Sam and Leuluai has just re-signed.