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Bottlers : Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:24 pm  
This years test, for me at least, was to see if we're still bottlers.

Powell talked about mentality last year, it's what we could all see. I've seen two poop performances just but ive also seen us drag our arses out of a bottling opportunity (Salford at home)

My real test this year is going into a big match as favourites and proving ourselves. I'll forgo the last 2, different story if both teams were at full strength.

Roll on the season, let's see if we've got those minerals we were missing in 2022
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Re: Bottlers : Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:27 pm  
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This years test, for me at least, was to see if we're still bottlers.

Powell talked about mentality last year, it's what we could all see. I've seen two poop performances just but ive also seen us drag our arses out of a bottling opportunity (Salford at home)

My real test this year is going into a big match as favourites and proving ourselves. I'll forgo the last 2, different story if both teams were at full strength.

Roll on the season, let's see if we've got those minerals we were missing in 2022


Ah yes the mighty Salford! The last two games were the true acid test and we've blown it. True adversity and we couldn't match either for intensity or desire. Powell had no answers on his post match interview. If we've been outmatched in intensity now, God help us in September.
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Re: Bottlers : Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:34 pm  
The mighty Salford and the mighty Hull Kr did us last year. The mighty Hull, the Mighty Hull Kr and the mighty hudds (i think) did us in the first round of the playoffs when we were making it.

I want to see us,.at full quota, tested.. that's when we'll know where we're at.

As stated, our B team, in the playoffs aint up to much. Our A team on the other hand.....
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Re: Bottlers : Thu Apr 20, 2023 9:41 pm  
We've been handed our arses on a silver platter by a good workman like Wigan team and a saints reserve team the Wigan game I can take but that tonight when so many experienced players vanished I cannot.. challenge cup may be our best opportunity for silverware again..
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Re: Bottlers : Fri Apr 21, 2023 8:53 am  
I mean people call Saints the bottlers and they have won four Grand Finals in a row so don't get too hung up about it.
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Re: Bottlers : Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:43 am  
You'd never see this year's Saints and Wigan teams losing to two teams below them in the table. It's a crisis.











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Re: Bottlers : Fri Apr 21, 2023 11:54 am  
Talk about 'bottling' is a bit childish and doesn't help much. There were serious red flags about our composure though yesterday. Marshall talked about patience and building pressure at 16-6, which is fine, but as soon as we conceded that daft try after half time we went to Hail Mary passes and trying to score off every play - even with half an hour left. That made us very easy to pick off.
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Re: Bottlers : Fri Apr 21, 2023 2:27 pm  
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Talk about 'bottling' is a bit childish and doesn't help much. There were serious red flags about our composure though yesterday. Marshall talked about patience and building pressure at 16-6, which is fine, but as soon as we conceded that daft try after half time we went to Hail Mary passes and trying to score off every play - even with half an hour left. That made us very easy to pick off.


Totally agree about that last bit. Was a bit surprised when we began chasing the game so early. Yes, we were 3 scores down, but when the game actually settled down in the last 15 minutes of the first half, we had looked much the better side and a similar mindset in the second half could have got us closer to Saints on the scoreboard and that, coupled with fatigue, might easily have seen them crumble.

Instead, we played into their hands, playing some pretty dumb rugby.

On a positive note, the spirit was there, but they were just a bit naive how we went about things.

P.S. how long a contract as Drinkwater got, because unless we utilise him better (if he is capable), then he's going to become an obvious weak link as nothing with any attacking positivity seems to go through him?

Actually thought that Dufty to half back (hasn't he played there in Oz, or am I mistaken?) and Thewlis or Ashton to full back might have been worth a shot as that second half wore on.
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Re: Bottlers : Fri Apr 21, 2023 7:00 pm  
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Talk about 'bottling' is a bit childish and doesn't help much.


'Bottling it' gets overused and seems to have just become a euphemism for 'losing a game'.

It first came up when we lost the playoff semi final in 2011 and Grand Final in 2012 to Leeds. The Leeds team that beat us was an all time great team and its fair to say that Wire had a good side but won't be regarded as an all time great side. But we beat Leeds in the 2010 and 2012 Challenge Cup finals. So were Leeds not the bottlers, for losing two big games to an inferior side?
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Re: Bottlers : Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:37 am  
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I mean people call Saints the bottlers and they have won four Grand Finals in a row so don't get too hung up about it.


Warrington have a 100% record in Grand Finals?
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