karetaker:

It’s something more than the coaching. I am looking at what Powell is doing now at Wakefield and thinking hmm can’t wait to read that Autobiography. 

But looking at this club for a long time now it’s clear that a lot of the issues are behind the scenes. We have all posted our different thoughts on this and with so many saying the same thing there as to be some truth to it.


I have not hid my dislike of what Fitzpatrick does, he seems to think gimmicks get fans in the ground but it’s results that will keep them coming back and we have been far to inconsistent for far to many seasons now.


We are a club that is in a very good position that should make us consistent top four contenders but we just aren’t. Again culture as been mentioned a lot but again from our PoV it looks and feels like the owners turn a blind eye to this.


I have asked Matt Turner to try get an interview with Mr Moran and see if he can get an honest conversation. I am gettting old but not old enough to have seen us win the big prize, as it stands right now I’m not sure it will happen in my life time.

ratticusfinch:



As I've stated if the numbers I've heard are true then I really don't blame Vaughan for signing and I don't blame our board for matching their silly numbers. He'll be a big loss.

Wires71:



You don't give Powell much credit, some points in reply. 


1. Success is indeed relative, so are consequences. Powell was sacked with his Warrington side higher placed in the league than we find ourselves currently and with 3 more wins than we currently have!


2. Price was here for the duration of his 4 year contract, ergo not chopped. Arguably he should have been chopped earlier though. 2 home playoff defeats should have been enough. 

3. Our expectations are so dulled now that squeaking into the playoffs in 6th is the stretch target currently. Hard to argue we have high expectations. 


4. The cap does not stop the wealthy teams spending £350K+ each on 3 x marquee players, our hundreds of £K on facilities that the poorer sides just cannot afford. It's not a level playing field by any means. 


5. Powell is a far more experienced and accomplished coach than Burgess. He won a LLS and made a GF with an unfashionable, financially poor club. Both superior coaching achievements than 2 x CCF runner up. 


6. Powell was criticised for his recruitment of past players but nothing as poor as compared to the recruitment that Sam has overseen for 2025. 

Whatever went wrong at Warrington for Powell, is happening again this season under a different coach. 

BarbedWire2:

It’s not an anomaly to miss the play offs for a Powell team though. It’s an anomaly for a post-Smith Warrington team to miss play offs though. Smith got sacked, Powell got another chance, and failed again. With his own team. 


Now people will be anti-Burgess and anti-Powell and that’s fine. But his time here was an abject failure. Kicked out all the “bad apples” and still failed to deliver. 


This year leaves a lot to be desired, but last year and this years cup run is far superior than any single performance under Powell, who never beat a big team with us, let alone got us into conversations about winning anything. 


Sam might not be the answer, but of the past failures, Smith and Price both did so much more without ever going through the complete collapse of 2022. Unmitigated disaster, with only Thewlis to point to as a player that improved under Powell.