Re: Theo Fages : Fri Sep 25, 2015 8:37 pm  

martin13 wrote:

I know a bloke who works for fages agency, he told me a while ago that salford had made a 'brilliant offer' to him, but they (the agents) hate koucash, and also salford in my opinion, and he was going, agents are parasites and ive told this bloke my views but he says they are only interested in the players welfare, complete bullsh1t, they are only interested in what they can get. What i would really like to know is why couldn't theo fages say to his agent, he would resign at the end of the season? After all he makes the final decision.

Spot on above !!

Re: Theo Fages : Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:52 am  

the flying biscuit wrote:

I think some of you are being far too gracious about Fages manner of leaving....

bearing in mind we have released players this season and they have been model pro's and played with 100% effort and dedication since those announcements....its not nice to see a player shaft his own club like Fages has. I didnt even know you could simply hand your notice in...!!

Mickey higham while at the other end of the age spectrum to Fages left in a similar manner...having his head turned by a better/longer deal.

Mickey is currently bumming around in a lower division and getting spanked and will be again next year. He could have been playing superleague with us next year - it would have been his last year granted - but its not be..... and a sneaky part of me is so glad....

you reap what you sow ........as they say

If you get your recruitment right and the right type of player... the Joel Monaghans of the world for example, you might not be that far off Saints next year...it must surely be a grudge match in the making.....???

Nevermind,theres always next year..

Re: Theo Fages : Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:20 am  

atomic wrote:

Nevermind,theres always next year..

Yes but be careful, you might end up with neck strain looking up at everyone!

Re: Theo Fages : Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:28 am  

martin13 wrote:

I know a bloke who works for fages agency, he told me a while ago that salford had made a 'brilliant offer' to him, but they (the agents) hate koucash, and also salford in my opinion, and he was going, agents are parasites and ive told this bloke my views but he says they are only interested in the players welfare, complete bullsh1t, they are only interested in what they can get. What i would really like to know is why couldn't theo fages say to his agent, he would resign at the end of the season? After all he makes the final decision.

Heard similar that Graeme Taylor and Marwan Koukash have a very volatile relationship, even to the point of Koukash banning him from the stadium. Clearly his agent has done all he could to move him on from Salford and my theory on the resignation is, Mr Taylor knew Saints would never pay a transfer fee above £50k so in order to reduce Theo's value (probably around £80k) he used mistakes Salford had made previously with regards to Theos contract and cite breach of contract. Knowing full well an RFL tribunal would favour the player and set a marginal transfer fee.

As we know, it never went to a tribunal and a fee of less than £30k was agreed.

Re: Theo Fages : Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:10 am  

theredshed wrote:

I'm not in the Theo lover camp but I can't blame the lad. There's been zero progress in the past few years and the whole feel of the club just hasn't felt right. Hopefully this is a huge wake up call and a time to learn from past mistakes. Going forward there has to be much more emphasis on improving recruitment, team spirit, mental attitude, consistency and discipline. The future has to be viewed as a steady building process rather than some quick fix route to success.

Personally I think the biggest mistake Koukash has made since he's been at the club was gambling on a rookie coach. Harris may have been OK tactically/technically but he obviously lacked the necessary management skills and experience to pacify and control certain individuals in a challenging environment. An analogy I would use is it's like a young inexperienced builder trying to construct a luxury house with very expensive materials on no foundations. What's going to happen? It's going to collapse isn't it?

Sorry can't agree with that statement...in my opinion the biggest mistake of the Koucash era was appointing Brian Noble and trusting his judgement on players...to me Noble had lost touch with the modern game and his signings reflected this. Apart from Greg Johnson we had absolutely no pace whatsoever and the style of play wasn't great to watch either. Smith and Chase never jelled...Meli and Williams too slow...I thought when Harris took over he did an admirable job steadying the ship, sorting the defence out and injecting much needed pace. I think Harris had bad luck with the Chase ban and then Dobson getting injured ...apart from the strange signing of Micheal Platt who ran like a tortoise on prozac he did ok in my book. With regards to Theo ? Im not too bothered ..let Saints have him ..unless Long can develop him I don't think his kicking game will be good enough for that level and will be found out...Id much rather we tie Evalds down to lengthy contract and look after him as that young man is definitely a class act.

Re: Theo Fages : Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:39 am  

Noble could only sign what was available,hence Smith not Dobson.
The Koukash mistake was jettisoning Noble too early and starting the trend of instability

Re: Theo Fages : Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:46 am  

Personally I think Koukash made a knee jerk reaction. Fair enough if Noble wasn't the right man he should have held off and waited for a few months for a proven Aussie coach to become available. It may have cost a lot more money to attract this caliber of coach but I'm pretty certain we would be in a much better position now.

Re: Theo Fages : Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:35 pm  

Seems the minute he leaves Salford he feels more comfortable not wearing a head guard.

Playing against Wales ATM, looks odd not seeing him in the cap.