Re: Salary Cap breach : Mon Mar 07, 2016 7:20 pm  

oldhamred wrote:

So if that's the case, and TP is the only who has come forward ( maybe Locke as well) then we are only talking about £100000 or so over the cap divided by 2 seasons which if you take Wigans case as a precedent , it should only be around 4 points deduction if found guilty.Then again ,if he wasn't even made the payments he was claiming, where's the crime? I'm confused!

In acting dishonestly to deceive the cap, presenting one version of a player's salary to conceal the real one? I can't understand why it isn't hard to see, unless you're being wilfully blind.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:30 pm  

I'm angry that we are in this position of charges being made against the club with no idea when a decision will be reached as to guilt or not. Obviously most people are assuming we are guilty but the fans are left dangling as to what is going to happen and when. Depending on the outcome we might just be wasting our time playing matches coz we are gonna lose the points anyway. So whats the point. Just when we have some renewed hope of a decent team and season the RFL drop this on us. I'm really vexed off with the whole situation, if its not one thing its another at Salford (always with RFL in the background) and it really does make you feel like what is the point. I was looking forward to a good season and now all i can think about is this bloody problem. (stupid statement here, I think we should just refuse to play until they sort it out!!)

Re: Salary Cap breach : Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:44 pm  

redwolf wrote:

(stupid statement here, I think we should just refuse to play until they sort it out!!)

You said it.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:52 pm  

redwolf wrote:

.................. I was looking forward to a good season and now all i can think about is this bloody problem........

Look on it as a character building experience.

If it's upsetting you at the moment then you clearly haven't been watching Salford for long enough

In a few years time you'll look back on all this and laugh

Re: Salary Cap breach : Tue Mar 08, 2016 2:57 pm  

redwolf wrote:

I'm angry that we are in this position of charges being made against the club with no idea when a decision will be reached as to guilt or not. Obviously most people are assuming we are guilty but the fans are left dangling as to what is going to happen and when. Depending on the outcome we might just be wasting our time playing matches coz we are gonna lose the points anyway. So whats the point. Just when we have some renewed hope of a decent team and season the RFL drop this on us. I'm really vexed off with the whole situation, if its not one thing its another at Salford (always with RFL in the background) and it really does make you feel like what is the point. I was looking forward to a good season and now all i can think about is this bloody problem. (stupid statement here, I think we should just refuse to play until they sort it out!!)

And we still haven't signed a new prop.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:02 pm  

I did BGF ! In fact considering the RFL (Mr Woods) asked the DR to effectively save the club and put his own millions in etc and ever since it seems the RFL haven't supported his endeavours (he has probably been a bit naive over the S Cap IMO) I wouldn't blame him for saying, well if you are gonna continue to treat us this way im gonna get out Mr W. Now, I don't want the Doc to go I think he is great if not a bit naive at times (he didn't know the sport at all before and has been advised badly imo) but you couldn't blame him if he felt like that with all the hassle and problems he has faced a lot via the RFL from what i have seen.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Tue Mar 08, 2016 3:26 pm  

We all know the RFL have it in for Koukash by his own creation.
I know there's rules for salary cap breach's, but what's the point in penalising the club, fans and current squad of players for something the owner has taken upon himself to do (and not very well), in the previous 2 seasons.
They should place a heafty fine on him and hit him where it hurts, I would say this is the more common sense approach.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:00 pm  

redwolf wrote:

I did BGF ! In fact considering the RFL (Mr Woods) asked the DR to effectively save the club and put his own millions in etc and ever since it seems the RFL haven't supported his endeavours (he has probably been a bit naive over the S Cap IMO) I wouldn't blame him for saying, well if you are gonna continue to treat us this way im gonna get out Mr W. Now, I don't want the Doc to go I think he is great if not a bit naive at times (he didn't know the sport at all before and has been advised badly imo) but you couldn't blame him if he felt like that with all the hassle and problems he has faced a lot via the RFL from what i have seen.

I think naïve is a very forgiving way to describe Mr Koukash' behaviour; he appears far from naïve - quite the opposite in fact - he appears to be arrogant, self assured and rather too used to getting his own way, hence some of the more outrageous things he has said and done since becoming the owner of your club. As for risking his millions - surely he didn't think that by so doing, he would be immune to the rules of the competition he had entered? He is a successful enough racehorse owner to know that sports have rules and governing bodies, who dictate the terms on which you participate in the competition they oversee.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Tue Mar 08, 2016 10:36 pm  

redwolf wrote:

I'm angry that we are in this position of charges being made against the club with no idea when a decision will be reached as to guilt or not. Obviously most people are assuming we are guilty but the fans are left dangling as to what is going to happen and when. Depending on the outcome we might just be wasting our time playing matches coz we are gonna lose the points anyway. So whats the point. Just when we have some renewed hope of a decent team and season the RFL drop this on us. I'm really vexed off with the whole situation, if its not one thing its another at Salford (always with RFL in the background) and it really does make you feel like what is the point. I was looking forward to a good season and now all i can think about is this bloody problem. (stupid statement here, I think we should just refuse to play until they sort it out!!)

what have the RFL dropped on you?

late last year at the TP case evidence of 'potential underhand payments and potential cap breaking' came to light. The RFL did not make these 'payments' They have jnvestigated a case going back over 2 years and have probably interviewed many ex players / coaches etc. Now there are charges.

Re: Salary Cap breach : Wed Mar 09, 2016 9:48 am  

If we are gonna break the cap again ???????

Let us do it in style, Benji Marshall is a free agent next year, he wants at least 600.000 aus dollars a year so just over £ 300.000,I reckon we can get away with it dead easy. Tell the RFL we are gonna pay him £80.000 a year send the paper work in the RFL will grant it, then we pay him the rest from another company, mite take the RFL a year or 2 to sort it but who care's it ;s only point's in a few years time.