Wilky : Sun Mar 29, 2009 9:55 pm  

We all know how much he has done for the club, but it is clear he isnt the man to take this club forward, this isnt just a knee jerk reaction annd I am fully expecting the backlash from the Wilky brigade but for me in all fairness wilky has kept us afloat and im eternally grateful, however he either needs to dig deeper, we know he has it a quick example is the Buile Hill museum fiasco, its about time we went out on a limb, I know were building for next 3 years but does anybody believe we will progress anymore under Wilky , I am a staunch supporter, neer hear bad word said about the club in bookies etc but for me I dont believe he is the god everybody makes him out to be, he employs simms who I understand is a relative, now for me you have to be ruthless in this game, cut simms use the money to buy a half decent player who can help progress us, I dont believe all the flak for simms , mcrae is 100% deserved but I cant see us going any further, nothing bad about Wilky done fantastic for us but if we ever want to be the club we all long to be we need something new. Whether that be new chairman, extra investment, new players ( not just journeymen ) new coaching even if not drop mcrae bring in sum specialist coaches prime example when we paid the money for kicking coach it got results we need that something extra, we have a wonderful youth setup, use it and while im on it John Wilshere ccking player that he is, if thats not a player disinterested I dont know what is his chaasing back for example not just today, Wakey another time, diabolical, hes heads not in it so for me sorry but jog on Wilshere not wanted here pal we need players wanting to play for the club. Sorry if this has gone off the rails a bit im not a nuisance poster but just frustrated

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:13 pm  

i agree

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:29 pm  

a certain rich local salford bookmaker is on the way i am led to believe from a reliable source!!

: Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:30 pm  

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Re: Wilky : Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:05 am  

Red Joldsworth wrote:

We all know how much he has done for the club, but it is clear he isnt the man to take this club forward, this isnt just a knee jerk reaction annd I am fully expecting the backlash from the Wilky brigade but for me in all fairness wilky has kept us afloat and im eternally grateful, however he either needs to dig deeper, we know he has it a quick example is the Buile Hill museum fiasco, its about time we went out on a limb, I know were building for next 3 years but does anybody believe we will progress anymore under Wilky , I am a staunch supporter, neer hear bad word said about the club in bookies etc but for me I dont believe he is the god everybody makes him out to be, he employs simms who I understand is a relative, now for me you have to be ruthless in this game, cut simms use the money to buy a half decent player who can help progress us, I dont believe all the flak for simms , mcrae is 100% deserved but I cant see us going any further, nothing bad about Wilky done fantastic for us but if we ever want to be the club we all long to be we need something new. Whether that be new chairman, extra investment, new players ( not just journeymen ) new coaching even if not drop mcrae bring in sum specialist coaches prime example when we paid the money for kicking coach it got results we need that something extra, we have a wonderful youth setup, use it and while im on it John Wilshere ccking player that he is, if thats not a player disinterested I dont know what is his chaasing back for example not just today, Wakey another time, diabolical, hes heads not in it so for me sorry but jog on Wilshere not wanted here pal we need players wanting to play for the club. Sorry if this has gone off the rails a bit im not a nuisance poster but just frustrated

Agreed by many on this forum pal

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:32 am  

So the next question is: Which of the plethora of multi-millionaires queueing up to invest heart and money should we choose??

Perhaps we could vote on them off at home games based on thier ice-dancing prowess?

: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:35 am  

EX.SALF.UNI wrote:

So the next question is: Which of the plethora of multi-millionaires queueing up to invest heart and money should we choose??

Perhaps we could vote on them off at home games based on thier ice-dancing prowess?

Think there's enough people involved with the club skating on thin ice at the moment

Re: Wilky : Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:03 am  

Red Joldsworth wrote:

We all know how much he has done for the club, but it is clear he isnt the man to take this club forward, this isnt just a knee jerk reaction annd I am fully expecting the backlash from the Wilky brigade but for me in all fairness wilky has kept us afloat and im eternally grateful, however he either needs to dig deeper, we know he has it a quick example is the Buile Hill museum fiasco, its about time we went out on a limb, I know were building for next 3 years but does anybody believe we will progress anymore under Wilky , I am a staunch supporter, neer hear bad word said about the club in bookies etc but for me I dont believe he is the god everybody makes him out to be, he employs simms who I understand is a relative, now for me you have to be ruthless in this game, cut simms use the money to buy a half decent player who can help progress us, I dont believe all the flak for simms , mcrae is 100% deserved but I cant see us going any further, nothing bad about Wilky done fantastic for us but if we ever want to be the club we all long to be we need something new. Whether that be new chairman, extra investment, new players ( not just journeymen ) new coaching even if not drop mcrae bring in sum specialist coaches prime example when we paid the money for kicking coach it got results we need that something extra, we have a wonderful youth setup, use it and while im on it John Wilshere ccking player that he is, if thats not a player disinterested I dont know what is his chaasing back for example not just today, Wakey another time, diabolical, hes heads not in it so for me sorry but jog on Wilshere not wanted here pal we need players wanting to play for the club. Sorry if this has gone off the rails a bit im not a nuisance poster but just frustrated

I appreciate what you are saying but what you have to understand is both the Chairman and Club Directors will have loans and securities keeping the club in business. It is common knowledge that knowbody not currently on the board with any serious money is interested or has ever been interested in investing, buying or more importantly prepared to offer personal guarantees to the bank.

I believe if the Chairman offered the club for a £1 sale with the buyer only having to give personal guarantees against the clubs debts he wouldn't get one single offer on the table. Why do you think he's been Chairman for the past 27 years? (Totally different story if or when the club get the new stadium)
And Personally I can't see the Chairman putting any more money in during this economic climate, especially considering his investment in the stadium and all the delays, would you?

Re: Wilky : Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:09 am  

theredshed wrote:

I appreciate what you are saying but what you have to understand is both the Chairman and Club Directors will have loans and securities keeping the club in business. It is common knowledge that knowbody not currently on the board with any serious money is interested or has ever been interested in investing, buying or more importantly prepared to offer personal guarantees to the bank.

I believe if the Chairman offered the club for a £1 sale with the buyer only having to give personal guarantees against the clubs debts he wouldn't get one single offer on the table. Why do you think he's been Chairman for the past 27 years? (Totally different story if or when the club get the new stadium)
And Personally I can't see the Chairman putting any more money in during this economic climate, especially considering his investment in the stadium and all the delays, would you?

Good post and should be pinned on the wall of all fans who are living in cloud cuckoo land.

Re: Wilky : Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:25 am  

theredshed wrote:

I appreciate what you are saying but what you have to understand is both the Chairman and Club Directors will have loans and securities keeping the club in business. It is common knowledge that knowbody not currently on the board with any serious money is interested or has ever been interested in investing, buying or more importantly prepared to offer personal guarantees to the bank.

I believe if the Chairman offered the club for a £1 sale with the buyer only having to give personal guarantees against the clubs debts he wouldn't get one single offer on the table. Why do you think he's been Chairman for the past 27 years? (Totally different story if or when the club get the new stadium)
And Personally I can't see the Chairman putting any more money in during this economic climate, especially considering his investment in the stadium and all the delays, would you?

So what your saying is were in a lot of debt and wilky is keeping us afloat
and if it wasn't for the new stadium being built buy peel we would be buggered