We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.
I see nothing wrong with the partners approach. It's a bit more professional and grown up than trying to land just one major sponsor. But more than that long term it is better for the game.
With Partners you get to have a divergence of links. You also spread your risk, with one big sponsor, you are heavily reliant on that sponsor or landing a replacement.
With partners you can build up a portfolio and as long as you have a couple of brain cells, the lengths of contract will differ. Some for a year, some for 2, some for longer. That way the sport is not held over a barrel. If the official betting partner does not want to renew for the same price, you don't have to weigh up whether you can land another one, or land it quickly enough.
I think the need for it has come about from the shambles of giving away the title sponsorship for free. But hey don't look a gift horse in the mouth. It maybe an accidental route, but at least it's now on the right track.
There is nothing wrong with having a competition title sponsor, but if that has to be an investment big enough to remove all other sponsors I think it would be a mistake.
I'd rather if we go for a title sponsor to get a little less from the title sponsor in favour of having multiple partners sponsor different elements.
The proof of whether it works will be in the accounts!
A world cup in all honesty should have a partners approach.
All the big boys do it, if approached properly it gives a great spread between the partners each filling their exclusive market and retaining the brand of the tournament.
Seems lots of posters are rushing to buy multiple tickets and I have no doubt that Ms Bolton will be announcing that Ticket Sales have surpassed the total from 2008 making this the most attended RLWC in the history of the game, followed by a snippet on 50 tickets being sold in bulk to some Cornish fishermen and that there are only 18% of category "y" tickets available for the Limerick game, so RL fans had better get a move on.....all without actually mentioning any real figures. http://www.rlwc2013.com/rugby-league-world-news/article/1039/rlwc-celebrate--days-to For the record, this release was made 10 weeks ago...not a word about any other milestones being hit yet.....not even the 293,965 total from 2008...or the 263,921 from the last event in England?
Other sports, across the board, fight for the media's attention......with 31 days to go, the silence is pretty deafening when it comes to good news on the RLWC 2013 site and/or in the mainstream media.
...but there are loads of forum fans who are buying multiple tickets to multiple games and they've opened the top tier in Huddersfield....so it'll all be OK in the end
Taking a conservative tack, I figure the following
from the seating plans it looks like there will be at least 40,000 at Cardiff, Wembley and Old Tafford so that's
120,000
It looks like there will be at least 15,000 at each of the other England games that's 30,000
150,000
15,000 at Avignon and 10,000 at Perpignan, thats 25,000
165,000
At least 15,000 between Rochdale and two games at Workington
180,000
The other group games at least 20000 in total.
200,000
Four quarter finals one, hopefully involving England at least 30,000 in total
230,000
So that leaves us 34000 short of the 2000 figure of 264,000 you quoted for 2000.
Now that;s being conservative. I would hazard a guess that we will get at least 60,000 to the final so add another 20,000
250,000
So it needs only a modest increase at some of these other games and the totals will surpass the totals for the 2000 tournament. I personally think we will do very much better than that.
The alternative was to say " Oh it will never work, we can't compete with RU, let's not even bother having a World Cup ". Is that what you want ?
If we pull in our horns and never dare, we will never win. The effort will be worth it and the game will be better for it.
gutterfax wrote:
Good for you.
Seems lots of posters are rushing to buy multiple tickets and I have no doubt that Ms Bolton will be announcing that Ticket Sales have surpassed the total from 2008 making this the most attended RLWC in the history of the game, followed by a snippet on 50 tickets being sold in bulk to some Cornish fishermen and that there are only 18% of category "y" tickets available for the Limerick game, so RL fans had better get a move on.....all without actually mentioning any real figures. http://www.rlwc2013.com/rugby-league-world-news/article/1039/rlwc-celebrate--days-to For the record, this release was made 10 weeks ago...not a word about any other milestones being hit yet.....not even the 293,965 total from 2008...or the 263,921 from the last event in England?
Other sports, across the board, fight for the media's attention......with 31 days to go, the silence is pretty deafening when it comes to good news on the RLWC 2013 site and/or in the mainstream media.
...but there are loads of forum fans who are buying multiple tickets to multiple games and they've opened the top tier in Huddersfield....so it'll all be OK in the end
Taking a conservative tack, I figure the following
from the seating plans it looks like there will be at least 40,000 at Cardiff, Wembley and Old Tafford so that's
120,000
It looks like there will be at least 15,000 at each of the other England games that's 30,000
150,000
15,000 at Avignon and 10,000 at Perpignan, thats 25,000
165,000
At least 15,000 between Rochdale and two games at Workington
180,000
The other group games at least 20000 in total.
200,000
Four quarter finals one, hopefully involving England at least 30,000 in total
230,000
So that leaves us 34000 short of the 2000 figure of 264,000 you quoted for 2000.
Now that;s being conservative. I would hazard a guess that we will get at least 60,000 to the final so add another 20,000
250,000
So it needs only a modest increase at some of these other games and the totals will surpass the totals for the 2000 tournament. I personally think we will do very much better than that.
The alternative was to say " Oh it will never work, we can't compete with RU, let's not even bother having a World Cup ". Is that what you want ?
If we pull in our horns and never dare, we will never win. The effort will be worth it and the game will be better for it.
I see nothing wrong with the partners approach. It's a bit more professional and grown up than trying to land just one major sponsor. But more than that long term it is better for the game.
With Partners you get to have a divergence of links. You also spread your risk, with one big sponsor, you are heavily reliant on that sponsor or landing a replacement.
With partners you can build up a portfolio and as long as you have a couple of brain cells, the lengths of contract will differ. Some for a year, some for 2, some for longer. That way the sport is not held over a barrel. If the official betting partner does not want to renew for the same price, you don't have to weigh up whether you can land another one, or land it quickly enough.
I think the need for it has come about from the shambles of giving away the title sponsorship for free. But hey don't look a gift horse in the mouth. It maybe an accidental route, but at least it's now on the right track.
There is nothing wrong with having a competition title sponsor, but if that has to be an investment big enough to remove all other sponsors I think it would be a mistake.
I'd rather if we go for a title sponsor to get a little less from the title sponsor in favour of having multiple partners sponsor different elements.
The proof of whether it works will be in the accounts!
Exactly. To use an example, at the Magic Weekend you had Heinz, Foxy and Brut all going round and doing their own thing in the stadium itself and outside in the fan zone. Presumably there will be a similar set up during the world cup games. With a title sponsor that wouldn't be possible.
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