No its not, and no amount of anyone trying to twist what I said will make it so.

I simply repeat - I'm perplexed at how when Bulls lose we get threads on here saying Bulls are finished, whereas when they win (rather less often of late) we seem to get threads instead about peripheral matters finding something else to knock about Bradford.

Incidentally, the crowd was over 500 HIGHER than the corresponding fixture last year. That despite our dreadful start to the year, the fact that being Good Friday many people were away on holiday (several season ticket holders sitting near me where) and the fact that this is no longer a "top of the table" clash. Reading this thread though, you'd think the crowds were plummeting compared to last year.

You do know what position Wigan are in dont you?

Whereas Leeds, of course, do not have any gloryhunting fans. Oh no. In 2003 when they had 12 out of 14 home gates smaller than we had yesterday, for example (but 23,035 against us).

No, we are the only club in world sport where more fans attend to watch the champion team. Every other sports team across the globe has 100% true, loyal, dyed-in-the-wool fans who always attend, 100%, and all would even if they never won a game in a century.

And our lack of success presumably led to the attendance being roughly 3.5% UP on last year.

Another real rubbish trolling attempt

at you comparing a game between teams from different counties on a Friday after work to your local derby on a bank holiday.

Christ-on-a-bike, you people are thick. Do I have to repeat it a third time?

You may not accept the comparison of the two games v'ers Leeds. However, overall, on average, by the statistical mean, if you add the the attendances up and divide them by the number of games , the point remains that Bradford are as well supported at the bottom half of the league as the so-called entertainers at the top of the league

what strange reasoning

Well, this is the Virtual Terrace Smokey.

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HTH

No reasoning required.

Leeds got smaller crowds then because they weren't so successful. They get big crowds now because they are successful. If in ten years time they are in the 2nd division they will no longer get 2009-size crowds.

It's not rocket science.

You can call the "additional" fans "gloryhunters" or whatever. It's actually just normal.

I don't see what the big deal about this is. As is pointed out it was bigger than last year despite Bradford having probably the worst start to the year since they started SL.

We all know which direction the Bulls crowds have been going in and there are problems. I think the ground is of course one but I think the negativity around the club is another. People seem to be jumping off a sinking ship. I completely agree that the Bully Bully thing has had its day and they need a new direction.

One final point, it was also bigger than the 13,631 that attended the derby in 2002.

Of course it is. Not everybody is a diehard fan and people do pick and choose their games. They want to see the big teams but only if there is a chance you will win. Its no fun playing your derby when its a near guaranteed defeat and an expected heavy one at that.

People often say when there is a big crowd, where are those thousands of fans week in week out? When Widnes have (had) big games thats when the likes of your sisters and everyone goes that have no real interest in Rugby apart from it being where they are from. They go because everyone in the town is going and there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Are they all coming back to support their local team?