Re: Stadium Developments : Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:26 pm  

MOT wrote:

How much will it add to the capacity the extensions to HJ?

I think that the Warrington Guardian website said it will go up to between 15,000 to 15,500.

Re: Stadium Developments : Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:44 am  

Fully wrote:

Tesco are already in Pontefract. They're just making the current one bigger.

Correct, Tesco want a Castleford store. The proposed works to the Pontefract store will have no bearing on this.

Re: Stadium Developments : Thu Nov 10, 2011 1:08 am  

Fully wrote:

It was actually Inflatable Armadillo who said October.

Yes, Opus's programme always had a target date of October 25th for the Tesco Wheldon Road planning application submission. I understand that the revised date is fluid, as Tesco are looking at several alternatives in Castleford and, as such, are not ready to sign heads of terms with Opus. Opus will not push the button on the planning application until this is signed... for obvious reasons!

They do seem to have switched their local focus somewhat to Wakefield and the current Ings Road proposal. That also said, they have more than one site option in Wakefield and things may change rapidly there too, depending how things pan out! I understand that no new Castleford store appears on their 2012 new store development programme but a new Wakefield store is provisional for starting on site late 2012 for an Easter 2013 opening. However, the Tesco store development programme changes weekly, and stores get put on and stores get taken off based on what they think is most deliverable in that year.

Tesco store development annual budget wallet is not quite as generously stuffed as once was and they have been over budget by quite a margin over the last two years... they still want to build as many new stores per annum, but have less money to spend overall.

This is just what I know and have heard through my networks, nothing more, nothing less!

Re: Stadium Developments : Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:39 pm  

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AI: What's the latest you've heard with regard to the LDF? Is this still going to a PI (of sorts)?

Hope you've got the shield shined and the sword sharpened for the next 6 weeks.

In a dark (& angry) Stanley Rangers clubhouse AI was bombarded with questions as most WTW fans struggled to get our heads round a PI for Newmarket & the possible implications this may cause our club & franchise.
When questioned with "how long this ere public inquiry will teck" AI replied "18 months" & the room winced.
......My my my how fast time can fly!

We were right then & were right now!

Salfords ground won't be the newest for long. Who'll be next Wakefield or Cas? I know where my money is!

Re: Stadium Developments : Thu Nov 10, 2011 3:14 pm  

Tony Stark wrote: Some great aerial shots of the Saints development. Much of the work on the site is complete in terms of building and landscaping etc ready for handover hopefully by the end of the month. Interior fixtures and fittings are being worked on and are set to be completed by the end of the year or before. There is a new planning application in at the moment to secure permission to clad the remaining parts of the stadium with 50% perforated cladding, these areas weren't originally going to be clad but will be by the start of next season. A full history of the build can be followed here http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=385845 That looks like it will be a fantastic ground, fair play to Saints for that one

Tony Stark wrote: Some great aerial shots of the Saints development. Much of the work on the site is complete in terms of building and landscaping etc ready for handover hopefully by the end of the month. Interior fixtures and fittings are being worked on and are set to be completed by the end of the year or before. There is a new planning application in at the moment to secure permission to clad the remaining parts of the stadium with 50% perforated cladding, these areas weren't originally going to be clad but will be by the start of next season. A full history of the build can be followed here http://forums.rlfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=385845 That looks like it will be a fantastic ground, fair play to Saints for that one

Re: Stadium Developments : Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:25 pm  

G.Price Fan Club wrote:

Salfords ground won't be the newest for long. Who'll be next Wakefield or Cas? I know where my money is!

Hadn't really thought about it before, but all of the traditional "Lancashire" clubs have now had new stadia, since the 1980s. No more Watersheddings, Athletic Grounds, Willows, Station Road, Central Park, Hilton Park, Wilderspool, Knowsley Road or Naughton Park.

Re: Stadium Developments : Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:29 pm  

G.Price Fan Club wrote:

Salfords ground won't be the newest for long. Who'll be next Wakefield or Cas? I know where my money is!

I hope it isn't on Wakefield then

That document outlining that there is no money at all to build a stadium at Newmarket looked quite damning really.

JonM wrote:

Hadn't really thought about it before, but all of the traditional "Lancashire" clubs have now had new stadia, since the 1980s. No more Watersheddings, Athletic Grounds, Willows, Station Road, Central Park, Hilton Park, Wilderspool, Knowsley Road or Naughton Park.

It's easy to do when you don't have an inept council helping you build them though.

Re: Stadium Developments : Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:34 pm  

Gronk! wrote:

I hope it isn't on Wakefield then

That document outlining that there is no money at all to build a stadium at Newmarket looked quite damning really.

Did you learn nothing over the summer?

I's also worth pointing out that said document is also a "working document"- that will have evolved considerably since then. FWIW I have been told that 3/4 of the units have been signed for.
Then there's the 106 agreement that means the stadium has to be built first. All of this will be reiterated for you on the 6th of December. Our case was unanimous then & we are facing a smaller opposition, with greater (if not unanimous) support of statutory agencies such as The Highways & Natural England.
But let's not let facts stop you picking up those straws.

Then there's the issue that you can't "unlock" your funding until you have OPP, well we all know how long that can take (at least 3 months) & that's without thinking of the potential (or likely IMO) public inquiry that could ensue (another 18 months).

Yes we have to get FPP before we can start building, but the land will be prepped and ready to go when OPP is given. And just like J32 FPP is simply a case of resolving reserved matters- in & out usually. Yorkcourt & SWAG have said for over a year that FPP was ready to go BEFORE our application was sent to the SoS, so you would imagine it would be no more than updating/ amending (which happens as you go) & handing it over to the council.

All I'm saying is this is closer than you believe or maybe RW will have you believe.

Both cases have potential banana skins, I can see our strides (in terms of prepping our case) to sidestep ours, all i can see is hot air from RW- but that's nothing new. For a green grocer he should be better at side stepping banana skins!

We all know the next 3 years are the (final) final straws for WTW & CT: Build it or lose out. Simple.

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:30 am  

G.Price Fan Club wrote:

Then there's the issue that you can't "unlock" your funding until you have OPP, well we all know how long that can take (at least 3 months) & that's without thinking of the potential (or likely IMO) public inquiry that could ensue (another 18 months).

According to Dickie Wrights letter in todays Cas and Pont it's Full PP. Quite a major detail change.

Re: Stadium Developments : Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:33 am  

MOT wrote:

How much will it add to the capacity the extensions to HJ?

Won't matter as they can't fill it as is...