Re: Expansion done right : Wed Sep 07, 2016 12:10 am  

William Eve wrote:

Historical revisionism at its finest.

We were responsible for the reduction in internationals and tours with the switch to summer seasons since 1996.

There hasn't been any proper international tours since.

If anyone's the revisionist it's you.

Was it the '98 tour that was cancelled due to the Super League War? And it was the Aussies who truncated the 2001? tour to being just the 3 test matches by using 9/11 and the war in Afghanistan as some kind of excuse for missing out the club games.

Re: Expansion done right : Wed Sep 07, 2016 7:19 am  

DGM wrote:

Mine was a genuine question, appreciate this reply. Informative.

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Re: Expansion done right : Fri Sep 09, 2016 1:11 am  

The way forward is Toulouse, Toronto, Avignon and Montreal within the next 6 years, with Paris and Vancouver to follow.

If Nigel "Dominos" Wood insists that they all waste their collective times climbing the divisional ladder, then so be it. That process is of course a massive waste of time and resources. Licencing is the only efficient method of expanding. Nevertheless, if rugby league takes off in Toulouse and Toronto and Montreal then it will be a success, albeit an inefficient one.

But until we have several teams from France and Canada in Super League, we cannot hope to attract the USA cities.

If Canadian teams take off, using local NFL discards with a handful of English, Australian and Kiwi players, then the USA will follow fast.

If Toulouse alongside Catalans in Super League can ignite more French interest in rugby league, then other French cities will follow based upon rich benefactors and rugby union defectors.

Re: Expansion done right : Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:25 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

The way forward is Toulouse, Toronto, Avignon and Montreal within the next 6 years, with Paris and Vancouver to follow.

If Nigel "Dominos" Wood insists that they all waste their collective times climbing the divisional ladder, then so be it. That process is of course a massive waste of time and resources. Licencing is the only efficient method of expanding. Nevertheless, if rugby league takes off in Toulouse and Toronto and Montreal then it be a success, albeit an inefficient one.

But until we have several teams from France and Canada in Super League, we cannot hope to attract the USA cities.

If Canadian teams take off, using local NFL discards with a handful of English, Australian and Kiwi players, then the USA will follow fast.

If Toulouse alongside Catalans in Super League can ignite more French interest in rugby league, then other French cities will follow based upon rich benefactors and rugby union defectors.

I think France and french speaking Canada should form there own competition to take advantage of the rich benefactors and union defectors you speak of.

Re: Expansion done right : Fri Sep 09, 2016 7:34 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

The way forward is Toulouse, Toronto, Avignon and Montreal within the next 6 years, with Paris and Vancouver to follow.

If Nigel "Dominos" Wood insists that they all waste their collective times climbing the divisional ladder, then so be it. That process is of course a massive waste of time and resources. Licencing is the only efficient method of expanding. Nevertheless, if rugby league takes off in Toulouse and Toronto and Montreal then it be a success, albeit an inefficient one.

But until we have several teams from France and Canada in Super League, we cannot hope to attract the USA cities.

If Canadian teams take off, using local NFL discards with a handful of English, Australian and Kiwi players, then the USA will follow fast.

If Toulouse alongside Catalans in Super League can ignite more French interest in rugby league, then other French cities will follow based upon rich benefactors and rugby union defectors.

OMG. Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.

Re: Expansion done right : Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:02 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

The way forward is Toulouse, Toronto, Avignon and Montreal within the next 6 years, with Paris and Vancouver to follow.

If Nigel "Dominos" Wood insists that they all waste their collective times climbing the divisional ladder, then so be it. That process is of course a massive waste of time and resources. Licencing is the only efficient method of expanding. Nevertheless, if rugby league takes off in Toulouse and Toronto and Montreal then it be a success, albeit an inefficient one.

But until we have several teams from France and Canada in Super League, we cannot hope to attract the USA cities.

If Canadian teams take off, using local NFL discards with a handful of English, Australian and Kiwi players, then the USA will follow fast.

If Toulouse alongside Catalans in Super League can ignite more French interest in rugby league, then other French cities will follow based upon rich benefactors and rugby union defectors.

What sort of planet are you on its not Earth thats for sure you are

Re: Expansion done right : Fri Sep 09, 2016 8:06 am  

While we all take Jean's posts with a large helping of salt, I think he does have a salient point, that being if we want the game to develop both on and off the pitch, we need to expand into new, bigger markets, which in turn can lead to increased revenue and player pools. You would hope this would also help the international game.

The game will not move forward in the M62 corridor, because there is a finite amount of resources (players) fans and revenue, which is competed for often by 2/3 clubs in the same area.

Re: Expansion done right : Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:15 am  

Super League in 2030, if licencing was reinstated:

European Conference:

Leeds,
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Bradford
Wigan
St. Helens
Warrington
Calder United
Sheffield
Coventry
West London
East London
Cardiff

Catalans
Toulouse
Avignon
Paris
Lyon
Marseille


North American Conference:

Toronto
Montreal
Vancouver
Winnipeg
Calgary
Ottawa


New York
Boston
Philadelphia
Washington
Atlanta
Jacksonville
Chicago
Dallas
Houston
Denver
Phoenix
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles



August-September, top 4 in each conference meet in North Atlantic playoffs. Late September you have semi finals and grand final.

Alternatively playoffs in each conference for the Conference Grand Final. Then the two conference winners play the North Atlantic Grand Final.

Re: Expansion done right : Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:20 am  

JEAN CAPDOUZE wrote:

Super League in 2030, if licencing was reinstated:

European Conference:

Leeds,
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Bradford
Wigan
St. Helens
Warrington
Calder United
Sheffield
Coventry
West London
East London
Cardiff

Catalans
Toulouse
Avignon
Paris
Lyon
Marseille


North American Conference:

Toronto
Montreal
Vancouver
Winnipeg
Calgary
Ottawa


New York
Boston
Philadelphia
Washington
Atlanta
Jacksonville
Chicago
Dallas
Houston
Denver
Phoenix
Seattle
San Francisco
Los Angeles



August-September, top 4 in each conference meet in North Atlantic playoffs. Late September you have semi finals and grand final.

Alternatively playoffs in each conference for the Conference Grand Final. Then the two conference winners play the North Atlantic Grand Final.

Fantastic.
Forget 2030.
Lets be on with it now.

Re: Expansion done right : Fri Sep 09, 2016 9:34 am  

Got to be the biggest load of poppycock ever spouted on RLFans.