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Re: The Chase is over, Rangi on his way... : Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:13 pm  
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I don't like what he said along the lines of, 'we will continue to invest in players until we win something. I know how much I can afford.'
It's like he has left a small fry football club and because he now feels like a big shot in a smaller budget game he feels that he can use his financial position to bully other clubs, like a small scale Abramovich.
That kind of attitude isn't good for sport.

Good for F.C. though. :CURTAIN:
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Re: The Chase is over, Rangi on his way... : Fri Jul 20, 2012 6:15 pm  
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Good for F.C. though. :CURTAIN:



Without doubt.
What could possibly go wrong?

I'm a Leeds United fan y'know?
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Re: The Chase is over, Rangi on his way... : Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:10 pm  
Guess youth development doesn't matter any more. I mean why invest in your own players when you can steal them from other clubs who actually follow the ideals of licensing, hey?
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Re: The Chase is over, Rangi on his way... : Fri Jul 20, 2012 7:47 pm  
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Guess youth development doesn't matter any more. I mean why invest in your own players when you can steal them from other clubs who actually follow the ideals of licensing, hey?

Well said sir. I must admit, if I were a cas fan I'd be more than peeved at Hull Fc. They rape and pillage your club and all you hear in return is..... Cas are our second supported club ya'know! I wonder why???. And your right about their youth ranks, they got no-one coming through after crooks. And who have they brought through since Houghton? A guy from featherstone called briscoe. The rest they have arnt super league standard. Pi55 poor for a club their size!
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Re: The Chase is over, Rangi on his way... : Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:22 pm  
Have to laugh at the last two posts. Considering the better players at there respective clubs came through there own Academy systems. :lol:

Hull have being neglected for years by Kath Hetherington and co, resulting in poor training facilities and a lack of top coaching staff. Add to the fact Richard Agar was the head coach and you already have a recipe for disaster. This neglecting has meant that almost 95% of our youngsters who have come through the ranks never make SL level and end up playing championship before ending up at West Hull.

This is something Pearson noticed after a few days as owner of the club and with immediate effect changed the whole backroom staff and changed training facilities to a state of the art set up. We have already this season given full time deals to several of younger players who could be saved and have heavily invested in under 15's and 16's. With some of them being paid for by Pearson to go to Australian schools to learn there trade (the same schools the likes of Chase and Marshall came from).

The problem we have is we won't see the success of all this investment for about 4 to 5 seasons so obviously we have to sign plug gap players during that time. Pearson has spent a lot of money and he is entitled to want to be successful because that is what puts bums on seats. Pearson won't enjoy the spending, in fact he will hate it being the financial man that he is. However he is willing to invest to see a return and by signing top quality players he will get that.

Maybe instead of pointing the fingers at our club for pinching your players why don't you point the finger at your own for failing to keep them. Chase didn't want out overnight, they were plenty of promises Castleford have broken to him.
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Re: The Chase is over, Rangi on his way... : Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:26 pm  
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Have to laugh at the last two posts. Considering the better players at there respective clubs came through there own Academy systems. :lol:


Eh? What point are you trying to make with this?
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Re: The Chase is over, Rangi on his way... : Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:29 pm  
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Maybe instead of pointing the fingers at our club for pinching your players why don't you point the finger at your own for failing to keep them. Chase didn't want out overnight, they were plenty of promises Castleford have broken to him.


Really? Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the "promises" Castleford made to Chase that they have broken? Unless of course they promised him that he could be the one player to break club rules by going out and getting paraletic before a match?
As much as I love watching Chase as a player, less than a year ago he said that he felt like Castleford was his home, and he wanted to repay the club and fans for the support they had given him. Now he wants out. A bit like declaring his passion for NZ a matter of months before deciding to play for England, he is to loyalty what Ann Widdicome is to modelling.
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Re: The Chase is over, Rangi on his way... : Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:32 pm  
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Eh? What point are you trying to make with this?

Chase who many would say is your best player didn't come from your academy and somehow just walked into the number six shirt. Surely you must have signed him from another club ahead of one of your own youngsters ?
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Re: The Chase is over, Rangi on his way... : Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:39 pm  
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Really? Perhaps you could enlighten us as to the "promises" Castleford made to Chase that they have broken? Unless of course they promised him that he could be the one player to break club rules by going out and getting paraletic before a match?
As much as I love watching Chase as a player, less than a year ago he said that he felt like Castleford was his home, and he wanted to repay the club and fans for the support they had given him. Now he wants out. A bit like declaring his passion for NZ a matter of months before deciding to play for England, he is to loyalty what Ann Widdicome is to modelling.


They gave him a four year deal and said they wanted to build a successful team around him, then signed nobody. They appointed a coach who wants to completely change the way he plays for the worse. They also guaranteed movement on the stadium front to give him a piece of mind to sign a four year deal and not surprisingly that has stalled and with news of Wakefields go ahead could mean Cas could wait even longer. Rangi is rumored to now be a father so maybe his loyalty has slightly changed in life and thinks a move away from Castleford would be better for his career and family.

I mean your not exactly the most appealing of clubs to sign for and neither are we, so that must say a lot that he would rather move to us.
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Re: The Chase is over, Rangi on his way... : Fri Jul 20, 2012 9:43 pm  
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Chase who many would say is your best player didn't come from your academy and somehow just walked into the number six shirt. Surely you must have signed him from another club ahead of one of your own youngsters ?


Chase was signed as a relative unknown from St George-Illawara.
I think you are barking up the wrong tree if you are trying to have a dig at Castleford's youth development, particularly as you have raided us for Westerman and Arundle. And let's not forget where your current captain was developed. And indeed the fact you managed to sign your best payer of the last few years (Manu) after we brought him over from Australia as a bit of a wildcard. In fact, there must be almost as many Castleford trained players in your squad as Hull ones?
Add to this other Castleford trained players in SL and the number still playing at the club (far more than Hull) and your comment just makes you look daft.
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