Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:19 pm  

nestegg wrote:

Why did we not act in the past? Because, if we had formerly put in a bid etc, as DT did in early 2017, then the RFL would have determined the FPPT outcome based on purely subjective grounds and would have rejected us. Said FPPT is in itself 'not fit for purpose' as it has failed, well at least in respect of the Bulls, so many times. Will the RFL reject us now? Let's see.

As for national press coverage, if you don't believe us, then ignore us. We won't lose any sleep over it. If, however, you have a modicum of faith in us, then be patient.

By the way Ewen we hear a rumour that many actively posting members on this Bulls sub-forum have in the past season not attended many (if any) Bulls fixtures.

I don’t think it’s a rumour - many on here have confirmed they’ve lost their passion and don’t attend regularly.

If that was aimed at me, I’ve continued to be a season ticket throughout each mess and have continued to attend all home games. I used to attend all away games too, unfortunately I haven’t made many this season. Not a decision as such, perhaps just a slow draining away of the desire to go.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:22 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Pure waffle.

**snipped **

Nobody has learned a single thing from you, and I doubt ever will.

Where is the 'like' button when you need it???

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:44 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Pure waffle. i could deal with BMC. Anyone could.

1) Everybody knows the covenant ran out (2) Nobody gives a shoite about you claimed contacts, why would SE contacts help anyway, the only parties relevant at this time apart from the poor fans are a) RFL b) creditors. We all know BMC won't be putting a penny in any pot.

Value of headlease is irrelevant to our plight, BMC is the landlord, RFL owns the headlease. One major question is and always has been exactly how the RFL plan to save Odsal for RL and keep the vulktures off, when nobody is playing RL there. "Watch this space" is just arrssewash. There are no convolutions. RFL are in a corner and having acquired the lease for the reasons stated, can hardly now dispose of it other than with some cast-iron rugby guarantee, which nobody would give. You take us all for mugs.

Alleged by who? We all know the mechanics of how the RFL acquired the lease, it is all public. How is buying a lease a "land grab", when even someone as all over the place as you must know that being a tenant grabs you precisely no land at all, just a temporary right to occupy some?

Except it doesn't. It could be, literally, anything, anything at all, as long as BMC gave planning consent.

Helps confirm you are a waffler, yes.

Most of your drivel is not anything specific, so is not "in the public domain", but just idle chit chat. NOTHING you have ever posted was anything NOT in the public domain, and when you skirt near such a point, you simply bluff that you "can't say any more". You have been posting ten to the dozen but have to date said precisly nothing.

"Any other"? Forgive me for laughing. You infer that you have answered a host of other questions, but ask if by chance ther are any more! When you have not answered anything, you seem to be posting for no reason whatsoever that I can discern , except perhaps to upset fans players and anyone connected with the club alike. Nobody has learned a single thing from you, and I doubt ever will.

Possibly the best ever post ever submitted on here.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:47 pm  

Ewwenorfolk wrote:

I don’t think it’s a rumour - many on here have confirmed they’ve lost their passion and don’t attend regularly.

If that was aimed at me, I’ve continued to be a season ticket throughout each mess and have continued to attend all home games. I used to attend all away games too, unfortunately I haven’t made many this season. Not a decision as such, perhaps just a slow draining away of the desire to go.

I wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself. I haven't been in nearly 2 years now because of issues I have with the current regime. I could argue my 16 straight season tickets prior to that, home & away support and every shirt bought for 25 years would qualify me an opinion, but I don't need to. Because anyone is entitled whether they attend 1 or 2 games every now and again or whether they abandon all other life to travel to Toronto, Toulouse and every other ground.
Anyone who was genuinely interested in taking over the club would think twice about alienating supporters who have drifted away. A serious bidder would want to try and find ways to get those people back, to supplement those who are still around. Further evidence that this poster is full of it.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Oct 21, 2019 2:57 pm  

Who or what is SE ?

[Wheels]

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:03 pm  

Johnbulls wrote:

Possibly the best ever post ever submitted on here.

Pah, not a patch on anything ever produced in the JVT thread. Legendary.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:09 pm  

Bulls4Champs wrote:

Who or what is SE ?

I'm guessing Sport England.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:12 pm  

Scarey71 wrote:

I'm guessing Sport England.

Ta

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Oct 21, 2019 3:32 pm  

Ferocious Aardvark wrote:

Pure waffle. i could deal with BMC. Anyone could.
.

Thank you for emotive words which have for obvious reasons been snipped.

In reality you with respect do not really have a clue as to what (allegedly) has gone on, and is still going on, with regard to the bigger picture.

The RFL as head lessee can within reason re-assign the lease on to whoever they want with substantial uplift bonuses based on Odsal's development potential, and given that scenario you may ask yourself who may be the 'hidden' beneficiaries.

AC was offered the chance to buy the head lease earlier this year with said uplift bonuses incorporated, but we understand his backer saw through the fact that AC had (allegedly) nothing to contribute to the pot. You may well then ask why didn't the RFL then go direct to a developer; the answer is a bit complicated, but the Council and Sport England (SE) would likely have objected to such a direct and openly profiteering approach. BMDC will we understand prefer a more community based approach for Odsal.

In any event after AC had to 'pull out' it all rapidly went pear shaped. AC did, however, do what he was allegedly instructed to do by his puppet master and he got the Bulls out of Odsal based on what were bogus reasons as was fully explained (with financials to back up our argument) in one of our earlier posts.

You clearly do not understand the reference to the alleged land grab. Well those in the know do understand; and you may eventually pick up on it when its too late.

If the RFL do sell on the head lease then we predict that the alleged land grab will to all intents and purposes have succeeded and the Bulls will no longer be required as an alleged cover for their dastardly plot, and whatever puppet is the owner at the time will have fulfilled their purpose and would then in all likelihood benefit financially as a result of their purported duplicity.

The above surely explains why credible bidders for the Bulls such as David Thorne were rejected out of hand after BBNL folded in late 2016. The reason was because Thorne would not allow himself to become a puppet, and he would have rightfully resisted the Bulls leaving Odsal at the end of the 2019 season. More importantly, AC was we are told (on very good authority) lined up to take over the Bulls by the RFL in mid 2016, i.e. several months before Marc Green's Bulls went into administration. That is not a fair and open nor professional 'bidding' process and was an insult to the the forthcoming administrator, Gary Petit of PBC, who in effect had to allegedly operate with the RFL tying one of his hands behind his back.

Yes, some of the above is in the public domain, but the analysis is not.

Notwithstanding the above there is of course a possibility that we may be wrong, and that all our informants etc in respect of these alleged issues are, or were, mistaken.

Re: Bulls Takeover : Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:14 pm  

DILLIGAF wrote:

I wouldn't feel the need to defend yourself. I haven't been in nearly 2 years now because of issues I have with the current regime. I could argue my 16 straight season tickets prior to that, home & away support and every shirt bought for 25 years would qualify me an opinion, but I don't need to. Because anyone is entitled whether they attend 1 or 2 games every now and again or whether they abandon all other life to travel to Toronto, Toulouse and every other ground.
Anyone who was genuinely interested in taking over the club would think twice about alienating supporters who have drifted away. A serious bidder would want to try and find ways to get those people back, to supplement those who are still around. Further evidence that this poster is full of it.

We don't blame you for staying away, so pl don't get so touchy.

Incidentally, do you think that the CB consortium, or now the MS consortium with CB as SCC/RFL go between, are going the right way about getting some of the disillusioned fans back in to the fold?

Anyhow, if a new, truly unfettered consortium with financial backing appear on the scene we predict you and many thousands of others will eventually come back.