: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:18 am  

FloridaBull wrote:

I think the entire coaching set up is well under par. The principles that Brian Smith instigated into the Bulls seem to have gone through the window.

Correct gone have the days of having Mick Potter, Darrell Shelford, Bernie Dwyer, Karl Harrison, Phil Veivers,Brian Noble and even McNamara as coaches.

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:19 am  

Other coaches that are out of work...John Lang, Stuart Raper & Chris Anderson. Any of them take our fancy?

redeverready wrote:

That's more down to the level of club he's [Elliot] at.

What level is that then? The NRL is a far more even competition than SL, with most of the clubs spending up towards the salary cap limit. Clubs rise and fall on a season-to-season basis, depending on how well their recruitment and/or training goes.

It could be argued that Canberra deteriorated from 2003 onwards... And Penrith (despite having a host of internationals and Origin players - Priddis, Lewis, Rooney, Pritchard, Puletua, Waterhouse, Wesser, Gower & Clinton) managed to win the wooden spoon in Elliot's first season in charge.

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:24 am  

redhotjalapeno1 wrote:

Other coaches that are out of work...John Lang, Stuart Raper & Chris Anderson. Any of them take our fancy?

What level is that then? The NRL is a far more even competition than SL, with most of the clubs spending up towards the salary cap limit.

It could be argued that Canberra deteriorated from 2003 onwards... And Penrith (despite having a host of internationals and Origin players - Priddis, Lewis, Rooney, Pritchard, Puletua, Waterhouse, Wesser, Gower, Clinton) managed to win the wooden spoon in Elliot's first season in charge.

I'd forgot about John Lang. IMO the club missed a trick in not appointing John Kear as McNamara's assistant before he took the Wakey job i think we would be in a whole lot better state if McNamara had a more experienced assistant.

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:31 am  

FloridaBull wrote:

I think the entire coaching set up is well under par. The principles that Brian Smith instigated into the Bulls seem to have gone through the window.

To true.

A major obstacle is the fact that Macca has no decent imput from respected Assitants. Instead, weve got a chap who struggled along coaching an amateur side in Bradford and a low grade coach from Hudds Giants academy.

Why? have they gone for the cheap option?



Not good, lets get some professionalism back in the Bulls camp with some well respected names. McNamara could do a lot worse than appoint Karl Harrison as his assistant.

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 2:35 am  

I wouldn't mind Karl as assistant. He's well respected and doesn't take any crap. I also think he took a full time coaches job just a little too soon.

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:28 am  

I would agree Karl Harrison back as assistant coach may well put some fire in their bellies. In 05 when Nobby was losing the team and several games over the Harris affair it was the assistant who was able to take the pressure off and fire them up to go through and win the title against the odds. Maybe if Macca remembers where he came from he might be able to steady the ship.

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 8:58 am  

I think your being a little unfair towards Macca your doing it tough at the mintue with injurys confidence is low, what you need is stick together and get through you will come good again

Macca inherited BN team and has been somewhat restricted in his recruiment due to the obscene money BN sent Iystens way until that money is freed up from your cap which has meant you have had to bring in players you wouldn't normally have signed imo aswell as losing the likes of Fielden,Peacock,Volcano your most attacking weapon which really hurts you and a great experience at the back in Withers

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:20 am  

It's funny.. I also remember the Brain Noble out threads and how one dimensional we supposedly were when he coached us. I also believe he left the club in a pretty poor state despite the obvious success he brought to the club. Signing's such as Iestyn Harris etc? Noble is quite obviously he is a quality coach.. but I also remember a lot of people constantly questioning his abilities. The armchair coach is always right..

If in a few months time we do need to look for a new coach.. trying to bring back past glories by bringing Noble back won't work in my opinion.

But for the time being.. can 'so called supporters' not give the coach a reasonable time period to sort things out? Does the coach not deserve a decent time period to work with the squad he has assembled? There are obviously problems with our game (stating the obvious) however the squad is good enough to resolve these issues. For the time being we need to stay patient and see how the season pans out. As I have maintained all year.. if by round 16 or so we still look lost.. then let's look at our options for 09.

Bradford have never been a club to make rash judgements on coaches.. let's not start now.. it hasn't worked for Wigan and it won't work for us either.

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:27 am  

I want Brian Noble or Ian Millward as our next coach.

: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:38 am  

in the past few seasons top players have been replaced by poorer ones culminating in this season. threads on here suggested this before the season begun.
being honest how many of your players would get into the line up at leeds or saints? burgess def, can't think of many more and that speaks volumes.