how do you manage it? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:05 pm  

how do you manage to get a grade B liscence and Widnes only get a C?

no trolling here, just wondering seeing as you dont have a stadium when they do? im sure your attendances arent a 10k average, especially seeing as you couldnt sell out at home to wigan and warrington.


maybe a little favouritism from the RFL?

Re: how do you manage it? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:10 pm  

Nope not Trolling at all.


lol

Re: how do you manage it? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:11 pm  

i hate pies wrote:

how do you manage to get a grade B liscence and Widnes only get a C?

no trolling here, just wondering seeing as you dont have a stadium when they do? im sure your attendances arent a 10k average, especially seeing as you couldnt sell out at home to wigan and warrington.


maybe a little favouritism from the RFL?

Clearly don't understand how the licensing system works.

Each team is awarded 'points' for 5 different areas of judging: Finance, Stadia, Player Production, Governance and Marketing.

So each team is awarded however many points in each of these areas and the points are added up to give an overall grade. And technically, we have a stadium as much as you do, yours is just on a longer lease.

HTH.

Re: how do you manage it? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:13 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

Nope not Trolling at all.


lol

haha maybe a little in all seriousness it would be interesting to compare every club against each others and see if we agree/disagree with the rfls grading decisions.

what were the 5 areas looked at?

i know finance is one, sure marketing is another, what are the others?

Re: how do you manage it? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:17 pm  

Stadia ? You don't have your own at the moment ? And marketing I haven't ever seen any from your club, nothing like the big one that wigan currently have ongoing now anyway.

Re: how do you manage it? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:19 pm  

screamy no6 wrote:

Stadia ? You don't have your own at the moment ? And marketing I haven't ever seen any from your club, nothing like the big one that wigan currently have ongoing now anyway.

Are you a wigan fan?

Re: how do you manage it? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:20 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Are you a wigan fan?

wether he is or isnt, his view on the marketing aspect is true. i have never seen a piece of marketing from saint helens. maybe if you did some you could sell out your local derbys.

Re: how do you manage it? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:23 pm  

Oh yeah, I completely agree with the marketing from Saints, it's awful. I wouldn't defend it.

However, Wigan fans can't say we don't have our own stadium and say that they have. We both lease our stadiums.

Re: how do you manage it? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:31 pm  

BackrowSaint wrote:

Oh yeah, I completely agree with the marketing from Saints, it's awful. I wouldn't defend it.

However, Wigan fans can't say we don't have our own stadium and say that they have. We both lease our stadiums.

maybe the marketing is the difference between getting the A or B grade for saints then? obviously when you have the new stadium that will be good, i dont recall you ever being in financial trouble, your player development is obviously good with the likes of lomax and gaskell and eastmond. seems the marketing category is the only one lacking.

(and yes, i know this totally contradicts my first post, but tbh that was purely to see what sort of reactions i could get from you lot )

Re: how do you manage it? : Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:33 pm  

i hate pies wrote:

maybe the marketing is the difference between getting the A or B grade for saints then? obviously when you have the new stadium that will be good, i dont recall you ever being in financial trouble, your player development is obviously good with the likes of lomax and gaskell and eastmond. seems the marketing category is the only one lacking.

(and yes, i know this totally contradicts my first post, but tbh that was purely to see what sort of reactions i could get from you lot )

I'd say we dropped on Marketing and perhaps attendances, I haven't checked the stats so I'm not sure how our past few years averages have gone.

Both our clubs are reported to be in considerable debt but operating at a profit recently.