our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:34 am  

hope our pack turns up next week at wire because last night they was awful no go forward which result in gaskell and wilkin kicking out of our own twenty most of the game which meant wigan was always starting there set of six on the front foot if our pack plays like that next week we will get battered again felt sorry for our half backs last night playing behind a battered pack come on royce sort the pack out this week

Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:46 am  

but you have the best pack in super league?

Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:00 am  

Bill Sonny wrote:

but you have the best pack in super league?

As many other matches testify, we have a good enough pack. But if your pack doesn't put the effort in, it doesn't matter how good it is on paper, it'll be s h i t e on the night.

Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:24 am  

As soon as I saw the Saints sub bench last night I thought Wigan would win. The Saints bench was lightweight. Magennis and Dixon are at best average players and Eastmonds head is elsewhere (I still think he will be gone in July/August once the RU players start pre season) Perry was a big loss to Saints last night, not necessarily because he is a very good player but just his physical size.

Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:43 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

As soon as I saw the Saints sub bench last night I thought Wigan would win. The Saints bench was lightweight. Magennis and Dixon are at best average players and Eastmonds head is elsewhere (I still think he will be gone in July/August once the RU players start pre season) Perry was a big loss to Saints last night, not necessarily because he is a very good player but just his physical size.

Magennis is awful. I thought this for a while as well, this isn't a reaction based on last nights performance, although i thought he was the worst player on the pitch last night. He constantly get's knocked back in both attack and defence, and he makes plenty of mistakes too. Yesterday though, we looked very weak when he was on. Simmons took him off, and IIRC, he never returned.

Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:37 pm  

It was still a better pack on paper than at the DW. whether Megennis will make it or not is kinda irrelevant. LMS, Graham, Puletua, Soliola, Roby, Wilkin. We should have had enough there, just like we did at the DW.

Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:44 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

It was still a better pack on paper than at the DW. whether Megennis will make it or not is kinda irrelevant. LMS, Graham, Puletua, Soliola, Roby, Wilkin. We should have had enough there, just like we did at the DW.

That maybe o.k. to start, but Wigan brought on Prescott, Coley, McIlorum and Tuson who all added far more than the Saints bench players did.

Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:52 pm  

wasnt just the bench was it none of our forwards looked up for it they got bullied from start to finish

Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:55 pm  

bewareshadows wrote:

It was still a better pack on paper than at the DW. whether Megennis will make it or not is kinda irrelevant. LMS, Graham, Puletua, Soliola, Roby, Wilkin. We should have had enough there, just like we did at the DW.

We did. It's just that only Wilkin and Roby wanted to play, and Roby was well marked. The rest of them were total c r a p.

Re: our pack : Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:11 pm  

[quote="Rogues Gallery"]As soon as I saw the Saints sub bench last night I thought Wigan would win. The Saints bench was lightweight. Magennis and Dixon are at best average players and Eastmonds head is elsewhere

It wasn't Dixon on the bench with Magennis it was Ashurst. Dixon is a lot classier player but with Royce rotating the 3 isn't getting enough game time for his development along with the fact that he seems to play them for short minutes each game. Our other forwards are having to play longer, no wonder they look knackered.

You will be having a similar problem with Farrell (with regard to his development) especially with Hock returning and Maguire seeming to prefer Tuson.