Re: Stadium Site pictures : Fri May 28, 2010 10:33 am  

jaybs wrote:

Why do you get so worked up? mistakes have been made and I think most people in the town now accept it, it is fact that it is looking like next season will be in Cheshire.

Not only next year but the start of the following

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Fri May 28, 2010 2:38 pm  

July should see work start on the stadium.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Fri May 28, 2010 5:42 pm  

I've never met a bigger bunch of doom and gloom merchants in my entire life as I have come across on this board/thread. Once work has started it will be up in a flash when they start to bring in the ready made pieces. While the ground is being prepared these pieces will be being made. It is surprising how quick the actual structure will be. The inside of the stadium will take the longest but by then all the fans will know that the building work is well under way.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Fri May 28, 2010 6:13 pm  

Agent Mulder wrote:

I've never met a bigger bunch of doom and gloom merchants in my entire life as I have come across on this board/thread. Once work has started it will be up in a flash when they start to bring in the ready made pieces. While the ground is being prepared these pieces will be being made. It is surprising how quick the actual structure will be. The inside of the stadium will take the longest but by then all the fans will know that the building work is well under way.

Its not just this board Agent, its Saints fans in general, many think the stadium is "pie in the sky" how are we going to get a new stadium they say, we have no money.
I point to the fact that its been passed in Council, Tesco are involved Langtree has spent years making it happen, a new Island entrance is now being built on the link road, Regional Government has granted us almost £5 million.
Yet we have grown men saying nah load of rubbish we will end up playing at Widnes for ever.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Fri May 28, 2010 11:24 pm  

The Doghead wrote:

Its not just this board Agent, its Saints fans in general, many think the stadium is "pie in the sky" how are we going to get a new stadium they say, we have no money.
I point to the fact that its been passed in Council, Tesco are involved Langtree has spent years making it happen, a new Island entrance is now being built on the link road, Regional Government has granted us almost £5 million.
Yet we have grown men saying nah load of rubbish we will end up playing at Widnes for ever.

IMO there has been two much time money and effort expended now for the project to be allowed to fail.
Especially with the legal contracts that have been signed off already.

I think its more a case of frustration at the sloth like progress at present.
This hasnt been helped by Saints over promissing and then under delivering on a massive scale re construction timelines.
Its all helped to support a rather cynical attitude.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sat May 29, 2010 8:38 am  

The Doghead wrote:

Its not just this board Agent, its Saints fans in general, many think the stadium is "pie in the sky" how are we going to get a new stadium they say, we have no money.
I point to the fact that its been passed in Council, Tesco are involved Langtree has spent years making it happen, a new Island entrance is now being built on the link road, Regional Government has granted us almost £5 million.
Yet we have grown men saying nah load of rubbish we will end up playing at Widnes for ever.

The is a lot of doom and gloom by saints fans with the new stadium.
I know for a fact it WILL happen and the the contract has been granted and it's a matter of putting pen to paper.

When the ground work starts it will still look as if nothings being done but beleive me, builds these days fly up.

I was on the site on Thursday and all is in place for the ground works to start.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sat May 29, 2010 9:44 am  

St pete wrote:

The is a lot of doom and gloom by saints fans with the new stadium.
I know for a fact it WILL happen.

When the ground work starts it will still look as if nothings being done but believe me, builds these days fly up.

St Pete,

I don't think anyone is even thinking of saying, it will not happen, just when, if as you say it is just the pen that needs putting to paper, I have plenty of Parker Pens, I will drive over and lend them to whoever is going to sign!

A constant complaint I keep hearing is from the people of Eccleston, who claim? that a large majority of the loyal supporters and crowd come from that area and they walk to the ground, will they drive every week to the new ground this is to be seen, When the Sky money first started money should have been invested in Knowsley Road if only a stand at a time!being built and replaced IMO,

As far as builds fly up, yes they do, but it all depends what type of build, one like Warrington bought from Ikea in a flat pack, but the superb "initial" drawings seen which were impressive, may take longer! I wonder what it will look like in the end? will it be completely closed all round.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sat May 29, 2010 10:06 am  

Jaybs, I think I'm correct in saying it will be precast from the ground up, the only precast place that is local that could make what's needed is tayban in Bolton. Maybe the precast is done and ready to be moved over when the ground works done?

My only concern with the time scale is if the ground needs to be piled, I heard it did but it may not be true. If it's a matter of base holes and footings it won't take long at all to get the foundations in.

If I'm being honest I can't see saints in there to very late in the season or in it at all. Sure enough it the building can be thrown up but then the is still other parts that take time.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sat May 29, 2010 1:06 pm  

Pete, seeing as there are very large warehouses on the site now, that have had thousands of tons of whatever in them, would this not have shown up any faults that are uderground.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sat May 29, 2010 2:46 pm  

The Doghead wrote:

Pete, seeing as there are very large warehouses on the site now, that have had thousands of tons of whatever in them, would this not have shown up any faults that are uderground.

No, not really. These previous buildings will have been built many years ago and it's obvious that a lot of things will have changed in how things are done now. Also the new ground will not sit on direct where these old buildings stood.

The ground can change all over the site. I do housing sites where some of the site is ok for normal foundations but some need piles.