Re: Stadium Site pictures : Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:05 pm  

Tuco wrote:

The document says the use of the stadium pitch will be for sporting events only and is limited for use by :

St Helens RLFC first,reserve and youth team rugby league fixtures
Other domestic rugby and cup competitions fixtures
St Helens Town FC fixtures
International Rugby fixtures

Whilst these terms go for nearly all pro clubs I couldn't imagine Saints preventing the Reserves/Acedemy playing there unless it conflicts with a SL game with the potential for pitch damage before the main game.I also doubt Saints would be willing to cough up fees to other sports clubs for the use of their pitches to many times.

Jeez do we have to put up with St Helens town again.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:19 am  

What was intresting about the list of events allowed at the ground........was they changed it from rugby league, to rugby games in the last meeting.

Would you think that would mean rugby union games could be played their in the future? Cause unless they bring the big money id rather keep it for league

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:36 pm  

I was frightened to ask this question earlier as I thought people might have thought it was devisive/negative, but now the dust has settled and these decisions are looked at in hindsight.......

Anyone fancy giving the definitive answer on this question....

What EXACTLY is Tesco bringing to the table to the advantage of Saints for the building of their new ground. Or, in other words, if Saints would have gone it alone could they have done this a lot sooner?

Is Tesco donating any money directly or even indirectly towards the ground? If so, what? If not, then why did we ever need them?

As far as I can tell, including a supermarket in the mix only made the planning process infinitely harder. So unless they were putting a big lump of beef in the pot, why did we need them?

So..... what exactly did we need Tesco for?

Please, no vague answers, I would love to know specifically, what does Tesco bring to the table? In hindsight, was it the correct decision?

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:27 pm  

Don Brennan wrote:

Jeez do we have to put up with St Helens town again.

Alas, it seems like it, although last I heard Saints weren't keen. I hope they pay rent this time though.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:46 pm  

Donkey OTay wrote: I was frightened to ask this question earlier as I thought people might have thought it was devisive/negative, but now the dust has settled and these decisions are looked at in hindsight....... Anyone fancy giving the definitive answer on this question.... What EXACTLY is Tesco bringing to the table to the advantage of Saints for the building of their new ground. Or, in other words, if Saints would have gone it alone could they have done this a lot sooner? Is Tesco donating any money directly or even indirectly towards the ground? If so, what? If not, then why did we ever need them? As far as I can tell, including a supermarket in the mix only made the planning process infinitely harder. So unless they were putting a big lump of beef in the pot, why did we need them? So..... what exactly did we need Tesco for? Please, no vague answers, I would love to know specifically, what does Tesco bring to the table? In hindsight, was it the correct decision? Tesco does make planning harder, or should I say more complicated, the main shakers in all this is the Council, the Council needed to justify their involvement and I think they have, as a town we will have a new Texco extra whether you agree with giant Supermarkets or not, a redeveloped Market St and new housing in Knowsley Road and finally a brand new stadium on what was a derelict industrial town centre site. As to what Tesco bring to the table listen to what the chief exec has to say. listen from 27 minutes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... 7_01_2010/

Donkey OTay wrote: I was frightened to ask this question earlier as I thought people might have thought it was devisive/negative, but now the dust has settled and these decisions are looked at in hindsight....... Anyone fancy giving the definitive answer on this question.... What EXACTLY is Tesco bringing to the table to the advantage of Saints for the building of their new ground. Or, in other words, if Saints would have gone it alone could they have done this a lot sooner? Is Tesco donating any money directly or even indirectly towards the ground? If so, what? If not, then why did we ever need them? As far as I can tell, including a supermarket in the mix only made the planning process infinitely harder. So unless they were putting a big lump of beef in the pot, why did we need them? So..... what exactly did we need Tesco for? Please, no vague answers, I would love to know specifically, what does Tesco bring to the table? In hindsight, was it the correct decision? Tesco does make planning harder, or should I say more complicated, the main shakers in all this is the Council, the Council needed to justify their involvement and I think they have, as a town we will have a new Texco extra whether you agree with giant Supermarkets or not, a redeveloped Market St and new housing in Knowsley Road and finally a brand new stadium on what was a derelict industrial town centre site. As to what Tesco bring to the table listen to what the chief exec has to say. listen from 27 minutes. http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... 7_01_2010/

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:17 pm  

SaintsFan wrote:

Alas, it seems like it, although last I heard Saints weren't keen. I hope they pay rent this time though.

I doubt they will unless we charge them a tenner a match or something similar, aren't they skint?

I suppose we did shaft them a touch over the 'Sporting Club St Helens' fiasco of a few years back.

[Sadfish]

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:27 pm  

Billinge_Lump wrote:

I doubt they will unless we charge them a tenner a match or something similar, aren't they skint?

I suppose we did shaft them a touch over the 'Sporting Club St Helens' fiasco of a few years back.

did we?

Saints, from what I can gather, paid off their debts (300k) when they moved to KR and from what I understand paid off the debt owed when the left SCS (34K).

More than hoghton road or St Helens Town brought the party.

What exactly is it that St Helens Town have done for the Saints, does anyone know??

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Mon Jan 11, 2010 10:01 pm  

Sadfish wrote:

What exactly is it that St Helens Town have done for the Saints, does anyone know??

Threaten legal action against them? Oh, that's not for the Saints!

Er.

Um.

There must be something ...

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:23 pm  

Sadfish wrote:

did we?

Saints, from what I can gather, paid off their debts (300k) when they moved to KR and from what I understand paid off the debt owed when the left SCS (34K).

More than hoghton road or St Helens Town brought the party.

And left them homeless.

What happened to the money from the Hoghton Road site? Did they not own that?

What exactly is it that St Helens Town have done for the Saints, does anyone know??

Nothing now, but was there must have been a reason for bringing them on board, incorrect or not. But I'm sure they wished they'd never bothered either now.

Re: Stadium Site pictures : Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:17 pm  

I'm just guessing, but did Saints and St. Helens Town FC think at that time that there was more of a chance of a new stadium being built if both clubs were involved as a joint venture?