: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:25 pm  

DISA wrote:

Thing is though Gareth, although the oppossition fekkwitts hate him, he isn't actually playing the same sort of game that made them hate him in the first place.

He is not the cheap shot merchant he is made out to be. He actually contains his aggression very well and channells it in the right areas. Infact if some of these morons took the bias away they would see that Bailey actually receives many more cheap shots (in order to wind him up) than comes close to what fans say he does. On Friday he copped two head high tackles from Fozzard in the first 10 minutes which never got a penatly.

I couldn't agree more.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 2:26 pm  

G1 wrote:

I was at a party Saturday night and got talking to a bloke I know in passing who is a Wakefield fan. I asked him if he'd been to Headingley the other week. He then went into a rant for 30 mins about how Bailey should've been sent off against Wakey, about how Atkins chinned him and about how happy he was to see bailey get knocked out Friday. I listened politely.

Anyway, once his rant was over he asked me if I was going to see the Salford game on Sunday. To which I pointed out, I was a Leeds fan, not a Wakefield fan and he's been talking poop the last 30 mins.

No doubt about it, having Bailey in the team is worth it if only to get oppo. fekkwitts frothing at the mouth about him.[/i]

How did you keep a straight face????

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:31 pm  

thebloodbath wrote:

But seeing as I don't have access to that info, mine will have to do for now.

That yours as in opta is it?.

Opta where the team's missed tackles = 3 while the individual players = 66?

Opta where a Paul McShane offload (to Lee Smith) is a try assist but an identical Paul McShane offload (to Ryan Hall) isn't?

At least they now realise McShane in number 26 and not 25 so that's a step in the right direction.

Opta where a Danny Buderus pass (to Ian Kirke) almost from acting half is a try assist but a Matt Diskin pass from acting half (to Carl Ablett) isn't? (OK there was a small difference with that one. I was just trying to figure out the 5 of 11 Leeds' tries that were individual efforts.)

I guess if it's all standardised and applied consistently to every game it'll make the results credible but I don't take them at face value.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:34 pm  

tvoc wrote:

That yours as in opta is it?.

Opta where the team's missed tackles = 3 while the individual players = 66?

Opta where a Paul McShane offload (to Lee Smith) is a try assist but an identical Paul McShane offload (to Ryan Hall) isn't?

At least they now realise McShane in number 26 and not 25 so that's a step in the right direction.

Opta where a Danny Buderus pass (to Ian Kirke) almost from acting half is a try assist but a Matt Diskin pass from acting half (to Carl Ablett) isn't? (OK there was a small difference with that one. I was just trying to figure out the 5 of 11 Leeds' tries that were individual efforts.)

I guess if it's all standardised and applied consistently to every game it'll make the results credible but I don't take them at face value.

I'm not cut out for this attention to detail.

Note to self: never, ever, ever used damn stats to back anything up, it just creates far more problems than it deserves.

theboodbath was never a geek, he ain't gonna start now!

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 3:53 pm  

No I can't answer for Opta either.

: Mon Feb 23, 2009 10:43 pm  

The thing with Bailey is there are a lot of opposition fans (and one or two Leeds fans) that still judge him against his impetuous youth. I think we all remember when he was breaking into the first team and could be ‘over zealous’ at times but Ryan has matured both physically and mentally over the last couple of years and has settled in fantastically as a reliable, hard working squad player.

Ok so he aint gunna be a Golden Boot but there’s not many props that I trade him for – lb for £ worth every penny.

Re: RYAN BAILEY : Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:20 am  

thebloodbath wrote:

No need to roll the eyes. Do you think 'nasty annoying penalty giving nemesis we see more often' is an accurate account? I think not, and I have backed my position with evidence. What are you basing yours on?

No offence intended. I am man enough to listen to reasoned debate and accept it when I am wrong. My 'evidence' is non existent...it is purely based on perception. Why do I have that image of him ?? Is he totally innocent of such a charge ? I can believe he might have matured...and on last Friday's performance he more than justified his selection. I just hope this is the new Bailey and he is here to stay. Contrary to what you might think in your undoubted erudition...I am not a "nice guy". Respect !

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 12:31 am  

LS16_Rhino wrote:

The thing with Bailey is there are a lot of opposition fans (and one or two Leeds fans) that still judge him against his impetuous youth. I think we all remember when he was breaking into the first team and could be ‘over zealous’ at times but Ryan has matured both physically and mentally over the last couple of years and has settled in fantastically as a reliable, hard working squad player.

Ok so he aint gunna be a Golden Boot but there’s not many props that I trade him for – lb for £ worth every penny.

To be fair Ryan does not help himself. Paul Sculthorpe told me how Bailey is always mouthing off in a game. Asking players to run at him etc.... but the guys a fairy

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:34 am  

Ashmeister wrote:

but the guys a fairy

: Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:58 am  

Ashmeister wrote:

To be fair Ryan does not help himself. Paul Sculthorpe told me how Bailey is always mouthing off in a game. Asking players to run at him etc.... but the guys a fairy

You don't really understand how forwards work do you ?