: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:35 pm  

Richie wrote:

I think the "10% + 2mph" is always just a guideline to the approach to be taken, not a rule.

If its a safety camera project that he has been caught by it is a rule.

Anyway this is way off topic

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:37 pm  

Robbo4 wrote:

Was this an officer who stopped you at the side of the road or one of the safety cameras from which you then got a Notice of Intended Prosecution?

One of the big fixed yellow things.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:41 pm  

As a serving police officer of Springfield (in "Homer to the Max" - Police Cops), I can tell you when you are most likely to get stopped for speeding



There are a few rules you need to know

Motorway driving:
The rules on speeding are that no-one will take any notice of you if you are within 10% over the speed limit. ie 70mph + 7 = 77mph.

If you are in a group of cars that are, say, doing 85mph again we wouldnt take any notice.


But if you were on the motorway and doing 85-90mph on your own then we would be interested.

Anything over 85-90mph and you are deffinately going to get stopped.

Also a real old car doing 85mph+ will get stopped.
If you look really young and in a BMW for example, you will get stopped.

Weaving from one lane to another or staying in the outside lane all on your own, you will be stopped.

Having defective lights, indicators or a smoking exhaust, we will also have a chat with you.

City driving:
Same as the above as speed limit + 10% any over and your going to be pulled over.

Really slow driving, no lights etc

Any swerving around indicates you just left the pub.

Any lads hanging out of the back window will also attract attention.

Hope this helps and safe driving!, D'oh

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:44 pm  

Robbo4 wrote:

Are you sure? The ACPO rules state that enforcement start at 10% of the speed limit plus 2mph. So in a 30 mph zone the minimum would be 35mph.

100% positive, it said it on the fine

This was 4 years ago and as far as i know it was the 10% rule then, never heard of the + 2mph thing.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:49 pm  

Robbo4 wrote:

Strange how I can manage to drive without drifting off into a daydream. 5 seconds is actually a long time. The poster claimed it was more important to watch the road ahead then spend a fraction of a second glancing at your speedo but then says people speed because they day dream for a full 5 seconds?

Depends what you call a daydream.
Ever gone past a motorway junction and then realised you don't know what number it was?
Whilst I wouldn't missed coming off at the right junction, for the 80% bit of the middle if you asked me how far into the journey I was I'd have little idea.
Ever found yourself autopiloting onto the route to work on a weekend when you were meant to be driving somewhere else?
It's easy enough to have five seconds where whilst still fully aware of the road, you might not be aware of your exact speed.

Robbo4 wrote:

Depends how sensible you are I suppose. What you might deem suitable I might deem too slow or too fast. Now if only we had a way of taking that decision out of the hands of people who dont know what a suitable speed would be......

Perhaps by having them take lessons, a then a test to judge their capability?
Gotta be better than arbitrary numbers.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:53 pm  

Tony Soprano wrote:

100% positive, it said it on the fine

This was 4 years ago and as far as i know it was the 10% rule then, never heard of the + 2mph thing.

If its a Saftey Camera Partnership its 10% + 2 mph.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:55 pm  

G1 wrote:

One of the big fixed yellow things.

They shouldn't even record a vehicle doing 34mph. The threshold should be set at 35mph.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:55 pm  

Richie wrote:

Depends what you call a daydream.
Ever gone past a motorway junction and then realised you don't know what number it was?
Whilst I wouldn't missed coming off at the right junction, for the 80% bit of the middle if you asked me how far into the journey I was I'd have little idea.
Ever found yourself autopiloting onto the route to work on a weekend when you were meant to be driving somewhere else?
It's easy enough to have five seconds where whilst still fully aware of the road, you might not be aware of your exact speed.

In the days when I was driving the A1 to Newcastle three times a week I'd often go the full length of the motorway section from Teeside to Gateshead without being able to remember having passed all of the landmarks on the way.

Its easy to switch off for five seconds, anyone who says they never have done is a liar.

Its also impossible to accurately judge your speed to the nearest 1mph without checking your speedo, anyone who says they can is a liar.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:02 pm  

Richie wrote:

Depends what you call a daydream.
Ever gone past a motorway junction and then realised you don't know what number it was?
Whilst I wouldn't missed coming off at the right junction, for the 80% bit of the middle if you asked me how far into the journey I was I'd have little idea.
Ever found yourself autopiloting onto the route to work on a weekend when you were meant to be driving somewhere else?
It's easy enough to have five seconds where whilst still fully aware of the road, you might not be aware of your exact speed.

Thats slightly different to day dreaming. I've always been aware of the speed I'm travelling at just as I'm always aware I'm driving on the right side of the road or in the right gear etc. Its part of driving IMO.

Richie wrote:

Perhaps by having them take lessons, a then a test to judge their capability?
Gotta be better than arbitrary numbers.

I've seen enough complete numpties on the roads who have passed a test to convince me I'd rather have an arbitrary maximum speed limit.

: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:06 pm  

McLaren_Field wrote:

In the days when I was driving the A1 to Newcastle three times a week I'd often go the full length of the motorway section from Teeside to Gateshead without being able to remember having passed all of the landmarks on the way.

Its easy to switch off for five seconds, anyone who says they never have done is a liar.

Its also impossible to accurately judge your speed to the nearest 1mph without checking your speedo, anyone who says they can is a liar.

You dont need to. On the motorway for example you can be a whole 8 mph wrong and still be ok.