Re: First choice 17 : Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:37 am  

Simmo71 wrote:

Spot on with 1-13. That's how I'd go.
Not sure Johnson and Muizz are ahead of some of the others yet for a bench spot, but could both well get game time.

Think Johnson will push Dwyer, Agars rates him highly and his lasting impression of dwyer was his 'empty crisp packets' delivery against saints. Muizz, i agree he probably wont make the 17, he'd make mine though. Was good in the playoffs, a good pre-season and he would be ahead of Thompson and Donaldson for me, then its just preference on what you want from ur bench.

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Re: First choice 17 : Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:53 pm  

Myler
Fusitua Newman Briscoe Handley
Sezer Gale
Oledzki Leeming Prior
Martin Mellor
Bentley

Dwyer Tetevano Holroyd Austin / Smith / Gannon / Donaldson / Thompson

Re: First choice 17 : Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:43 pm  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

Think Johnson will push Dwyer, Agars rates him highly and his lasting impression of dwyer was his 'empty crisp packets' delivery against saints. Muizz, i agree he probably wont make the 17, he'd make mine though. Was good in the playoffs, a good pre-season and he would be ahead of Thompson and Donaldson for me, then its just preference on what you want from ur bench.

Interesting isn’t it how Gale, Mellor, Martin, Dwyer, Myler, Briscoe respond for 2022.

You’d like to think they’ll work hard for their spots in the 17, one or two might even be extended.

They all have competition for their place that wasn’t there at the start of this season, and Sutcliffe must be looking over his shoulder too.

Also interesting if we get a new break-out next year. Nobody saw Gannon doing what he ended up doing.

Re: First choice 17 : Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:38 pm  

Just for fun to demonstrate depth of squad.

Probables

1. Myler
2. Fusitua
3. Newman
4. Sutcliffe
5. Handley
6. Sezer
7. Gale
8.Oledski
9.Leeming
10. Prior
11. Bentley
12. Martin
13. Tetevano

Possibles

1. Walker
2.Briscoe
3.Broadbent
4. Edwards
5. Tindall
6. Austin
7. Johnson
8. Holroyd
9. Dwyer
10. Thompson
11. Mellor
12. Gannon
13. Smith

Interchanges

Sinfield
Hall
Mustapha
Donaldson
Walters
O Connor

Thats a decent squad with plenty of depth barring one more big man

Re: First choice 17 : Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:53 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Interesting isn’t it how Gale, Mellor, Martin, Dwyer, Myler, Briscoe respond for 2022..

And unless I’m mistaken all out of contract at end of 2022?

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Re: First choice 17 : Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:29 pm  

cheekydiddles wrote:

And unless I’m mistaken all out of contract at end of 2022?

Briscoe, Newman, Gale, Mellor, Dwyer, Martin, Holroyd, Thompson, Broadbent, Austin, Mustapha, O’Connor all OOC.

Re: First choice 17 : Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:44 am  

Briscoe and Gale presumably retiring, Martin will be aiming for a new deal, Newman, Holroyd and Broadbent hopefully will get new deals announced early, Austin is playing for Gale's salary, Mustapha and O’Connor need to have big years to get renewed, Mellor and Thompson released with thanks for their efforts. Dwyer.... who knows.

Re: First choice 17 : Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:51 am  

What it really highlights is how the depth in quality we've got for 2022 is really likely to be short lived given the salary cap.

We have star young players who will very soon need upgrades and quality established players like Austin and Fusitu'a are being paid by Leeds below their market values, for now. Those circumstances won't last long so it's a very big year for the club.

Re: First choice 17 : Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:00 am  

There's a thread on the pies board about Sam Powell. It appears that a "quality hooker like Dwyer" is on the wish list of some of their fans. My first thought was to wonder what the hell Powell's been serving up but it then made me think that some of our "possibles" could actually land quite favourable deals elsewhere. Regardless, I think most with deals to shortly expire will go; I'm not sure we could get the incomers under the cap unless their contracts have been significantly backloaded.

Re: First choice 17 : Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:14 am  

Clearwing wrote:

There's a thread on the pies board about Sam Powell. It appears that a "quality hooker like Dwyer" is on the wish list of some of their fans. My first thought was to wonder what the hell Powell's been serving up but it then made me think that some of our "possibles" could actually land quite favourable deals elsewhere. Regardless, I think most with deals to shortly expire will go; I'm not sure we could get the incomers under the cap unless their contracts have been significantly backloaded.

You can't backload contracts under the cap.

Dwyer is an interesting one. I really don't think it works when he starts but he is a great bench player and we know he can really change a game. How much value does someone like that have on the open market? Hard to say but I'm pretty sure it's more than he is currently on given he has shown more since signing the current deal (and notwithstanding the crisp packet comments).
Having said that he does seem to place a premium on a stable environment so we may be able to extend without a significant upgrade - if we decide that's the route we want to go down. I suspect Wigan fans are seeing his good bits and assuming he's an outstanding all-round hooker, which he definitively isn't. He's also a Wigan lad but I wouldn't advise anyone to join that club right now.