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| exiledrhino:Seth:ArthurClues:
Mat Peet is obviously a very good coach and maybe even a great one, but he's been immensely fortunate to inherit two lightening quick game breakers in Field and French. Parachute him into the Leeds job and the current squad and, just like Arthur, he'd be picking the likes of Frawley and Ackers until such time as they could be upgraded. If we haven't learned by now that chucking in 18/19 year olds from the academy leads to long term injuries we never will.
Very true, but Peet seems to be getting a lot more out of 'the likes of Leeming' than Leeds did. Dwyer is also going better now at Leigh too, broadbent seems well liked at KR and progressing well, Sezer did relatively well at wests and now at Hull, and Corey Hall even looks like hes coming on. I'm sure I've missed a few there too. What is the perpetual problem at Leeds... It's a good question - I think a lack of strategy and consistency has massively hampered us in the rugby department. We've been thinking too short term, and not competed enough at bringing the best juniors through the system. In a sense, I think Frawley is clearly a stop gap signing to allow one of our junior halves to come through without being such a big signing to block them. In terms of coaching we've gone from the strange David Furner spell, to JJB as caretaker, to Agar as temporary, to Agar as potential DOR then leaving, then the absolute massive gamble of Rohan Smith, and now we have Arthur who we know doesn't want to stick around. Every coach has to 'build their own squad', those squads need to settle and 'gel' and the short termism doesn't leave room for integrating junior players into the set-up. I'm hoping having Blease settles things down in that regard, but we definitely need more clear direction with how we recruit and bring through players, and make it clear to whatever coach succeeds Arthur that they will largely have to improve players we already have supplemented by a few signings to add quality. Great post and agree totally.
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| Kind of reminds me of Liam Sutcliffe, trying to squeeze a player capable of playing several positions into the 17.You could make the argument of being able to sign better in any of those roles though. I know he bleeds Leeds but is that enough?
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| When Smith is fit he'll almost certainly resume at 13, allowing Palasia to return to prop with Lisone losing his place on the bench. I get that Smith hasn't quite become the player fans wanted him to be, but he's captain, Arthur likes him and until such time as a young player ( Cassell/Gannon) develops into a genuine modern 13 he'll likely be a starter.
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When Smith is fit he'll almost certainly resume at 13, allowing Palasia to return to prop with Lisone losing his place on the bench. I get that Smith hasn't quite become the player fans wanted him to be, but he's captain, Arthur likes him and until such time as a young player ( Cassell/Gannon) develops into a genuine modern 13 he'll likely be z starter.
I hope Smith makes a fast and full recovery, but I’m in no rush to see him back on the field. For the time being I would like to see minimal game time for Frawley and see how the team evolves without either him or Cameron Smith.
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| leeds owl:ArthurClues:
When Smith is fit he'll almost certainly resume at 13, allowing Palasia to return to prop with Lisone losing his place on the bench. I get that Smith hasn't quite become the player fans wanted him to be, but he's captain, Arthur likes him and until such time as a young player ( Cassell/Gannon) develops into a genuine modern 13 he'll likely be z starter.
I hope Smith makes a fast and full recovery, but I’m in no rush to see him back on the field. For the time being I would like to see minimal game time for Frawley and see how the team evolves without either him or Cameron Smith. Yep, I get that view, especially re Frawley. I also think Palasia is knocking it out of the park at 13, but when Smith returns we'll be stronger as a team because he just offers more as a middle forward than Lisone does. If we dip into the NRL and recruit another prop of Jenkins/Palasia standard for next year, Cam will be under a lot more pressure. At that point we could have a pretty fearsome pack.
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| Think I'd agree with most of that AC.
Good post.
Lets face it, we need to put the building blocks down now regardless of whether BA decides to stay or not. Hopefully with Blease now looking after acquisitions / contracts we have a strong stable base to which we can add quality to instead of throwing the baby out with the bath water every year and a half. Dont forget weve got some cracking lads coming through the academy who although a bit off should hopefully find the transition to first team that bit easier with decent players around them.
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