Re: New Disciplinary rules : Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:00 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

A good friend of mine tells me his Dad overheard Whitfield saying in a pub how much he hated Leeds... the man was an outrageously bad referee.

Nearly as bad as Robert Hicks. He kept his hatred to himself though.

Re: New Disciplinary rules : Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:16 am  

hicks was pish poor for everybody...

Re: New Disciplinary rules : Wed Jan 15, 2025 11:13 am  

Under these new rules we actually seem to be in the best position to start the year https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/th ... om-hull-fc

Under these new rules we actually seem to be in the best position to start the year https://www.loverugbyleague.com/post/th ... om-hull-fc

Re: New Disciplinary rules : Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:18 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

hicks was pish poor for everybody...

Hicks had an agenda with Leeds, I’ve no doubt about that. Amongst many, many bad calls he made against Leeds two in particular stand out. I’m sure most people remember the day Micky Mcclorum tried decapitating Brad Dwyer for Catalans. He then picked up the groggy, bloodied Dwyer and dropped him down again. As the medics tried to stem the bleeding from Dwyers flattened nose and gashed lip, Chris Kendall sought advice from video ref Hicks. He deemed no offence had been committed for the initial head shot or subsequent lifting of an injured player. The judiciary, like everyone else on the planet, said different. Mcclorum was charged with the head shot and most serious grade F charge for lifting an injured player. He was subsequently banned for 6 games which ended his campaign and the start of the following season. It should also have ended Hicks career as a Superleague official. The 2nd well known bit of Hicksery was when he managed to yellow card Danny Mags as he was carried off after the “crocodile roll” tackle from Marc Sneyd who tried unscrewing Danny’s leg. The disciplinary obviously ignored Hicks, banned Sneyd and no charge against McGuire. Stopping short of apologising , Hicks blamed Danny Mags “previous petulance” for his bad read on the situation. You couldn’t make it up.

Re: New Disciplinary rules : Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:47 pm  

We should give McNamara and Peter Hood the 2 points back after Tansey-gate

Re: New Disciplinary rules : Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:03 pm  

Nerd alert...

You can work out from the RFL disciplinary record that our points b/f were accumulated and so drop out after 12 months as follows:

Lisone - All 5 points 22nd February (the ridiculous 3 match ban he got at Hull KR before things settled down a bit)
Ackers - 1 point 25th July
Bentley - 1 point 2nd March
Connor - 1 point 16th March
Cam Smith - 1 point 28th March and 1 point 3rd August

Re: New Disciplinary rules : Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:22 pm  

leeds owl wrote:

Hicks had an agenda with Leeds, I’ve no doubt about that. Amongst many, many bad calls he made against Leeds two in particular stand out. I’m sure most people remember the day Micky Mcclorum tried decapitating Brad Dwyer for Catalans. He then picked up the groggy, bloodied Dwyer and dropped him down again. As the medics tried to stem the bleeding from Dwyers flattened nose and gashed lip, Chris Kendall sought advice from video ref Hicks. He deemed no offence had been committed for the initial head shot or subsequent lifting of an injured player. The judiciary, like everyone else on the planet, said different. Mcclorum was charged with the head shot and most serious grade F charge for lifting an injured player. He was subsequently banned for 6 games which ended his campaign and the start of the following season. It should also have ended Hicks career as a Superleague official.

FWIW micky mac originally copped a game for the high shot, doubled to two following a frivolous appeal. On the other hand his grade f charge was reduced to a grade d and he got four for that. The game was also notable for the ever lovable joel tomkins giving myler the sort of body search normally carried out by customs officers wearing surgical gloves. He got 8.

Not sure last year's officiating was worse, if I'm honest.

Re: New Disciplinary rules : Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:53 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

The game was also notable for the ever lovable joel tomkins giving myler the sort of body search normally carried out by customs officers wearing surgical gloves.

Forgot about that one. Maybe Tomkins had aspirations to be a doctor and was just checking for any enlargement in that area.

Re: New Disciplinary rules : Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:15 am  

I went to see Leeds Knights last week, I know nothing about Ice Hockey apart from you need to score. Near the end there was a fight , the announcer said that both players were sent off for five minutes and will be banned for the next game. I thought that was disciplinary at its quickest, our panels and appeals could learn a lot from that.

Re: New Disciplinary rules : Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:20 am  

Rhino at work wrote:

Nerd alert...

You can work out from the RFL disciplinary record that our points b/f were accumulated and so drop out after 12 months as follows:

Lisone - All 5 points 22nd February (the ridiculous 3 match ban he got at Hull KR before things settled down a bit)
Ackers - 1 point 25th July
Bentley - 1 point 2nd March
Connor - 1 point 16th March
Cam Smith - 1 point 28th March and 1 point 3rd August

Can someone explain how these carry forwards have been arrived at. I get the conversion of offence severity into points that accumulate during the season. But I don’t follow the application of this to 2024 offences. If a player offended last year surely they’ll have served a ban then and those offences extinguished. Or is it that all offences last season, even though they served a ban for them, are carried forward to this year.